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Count of DYK Hooks | ||
Section | # of Hooks | # Verified |
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January 2 | 1 | 1 |
January 31 | 1 | |
February 9 | 1 | |
February 13 | 2 | 1 |
February 15 | 1 | |
February 16 | 2 | |
February 18 | ||
February 20 | 1 | |
February 23 | 3 | |
February 24 | 1 | |
February 25 | 2 | 1 |
February 27 | 1 | 1 |
February 29 | 3 | 2 |
March 1 | 5 | 2 |
March 2 | 3 | |
March 3 | 2 | 2 |
March 4 | 2 | |
March 5 | 2 | 2 |
March 6 | 5 | 3 |
March 7 | 1 | 1 |
March 8 | 4 | 3 |
March 9 | 2 | 2 |
March 10 | 6 | 5 |
March 11 | 10 | 9 |
March 12 | 6 | 5 |
March 13 | 5 | 5 |
March 14 | 5 | 4 |
March 15 | 7 | 6 |
March 16 | 8 | 8 |
March 17 | 11 | 8 |
March 18 | 8 | 7 |
March 19 | 18 | 13 |
March 20 | 13 | 12 |
March 21 | 6 | 4 |
March 22 | 4 | 3 |
March 23 | 10 | 9 |
March 24 | 5 | 2 |
March 25 | 10 | 6 |
March 26 | 9 | 6 |
March 27 | 3 | 2 |
March 28 | 6 | |
March 29 | 6 | |
March 30 | 3 | |
March 31 | 2 | |
April 1 | 6 | |
April 2 | 4 | |
April 3 | 5 | |
April 4 | 4 | |
April 5 | 3 | |
April 6 | 2 | |
Total | 230 | 135 |
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Frequently asked questions[edit]
How do I write an interesting hook?
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- Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
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How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]
- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
- Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
- View the edit history for that page
- Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
- Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
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- If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]
- Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.
Nominations[edit]
Older nominations[edit]
Articles created/expanded on January 31[edit]
Head Harbour Lighthouse
- ... that there's an East Quoddy Head Lighthouse (pictured) and a West Quoddy Head Lighthouse across the bay from one another (in matching colors!) but that one is in Canada and the other is in the United States? Source: https://www.lighthousefriends.com/light.asp?ID=1022
- Reviewed:
- Comment: East Quoddy and West Quoddy are an adorable pair of lighthouses in the Bay of Fundy between Maine, USA and New Brunswick, Canada. They're both painted a bright red and white, (with America's in patriotic stripes and Canada's with a classic St. George's Cross,) and are just a delightful twin site. I noticed there wasn't an article for East Quoddy (a.k.a. Head Harbour Light), so I wrote one up and am submitting this now, hopefully you like it!
Created by Garnet Moss (talk). Self-nominated at 03:32, 4 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Head Harbour Lighthouse; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- I'm not sure this qualifies as a reliable source, it appears to be the self-published work of an amateur. nableezy - 16:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- It's a thorough, secondary source for information about many lighthouses, which further cites primary sources. I'm happy to submit other links to more authoritative sources, but I chose this one because it included info about both East and West Quoddy in the same body of text, so it seemed most relevant. (Also, sorry if this is bad protocol, this is my first DYK!) Garnet Moss (talk) 23:12, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- It is secondary sure, but it is self-published and I dont see anything indicating the author has academic works on the topic to make it a usable self-published source. So yes, please do include some other source for the statement. Thanks, nableezy - 14:17, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- Sure thing; I'll note the "statement" is essentially just that this pair of lighthouses exists on the bay. If a simple tourism page would work, there's this one from the New Brunswick tourism department's website, noting that the lighthouse is twinned with West Quoddy. If something more 'serious' would be preferred, I'd have to cite a pair of pages, like this one from the official Canadian Register of Historic Places website, in conjunction with this one from the offician American National Register of Historic Places website. These don't reference one another, but they site the location in the same bay. Hopefully one of these options would work! Garnet Moss (talk) 03:29, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Im sorry, maybe I just dont have enough background here, but the tourism site just says
It is the older sister light of West Quoddy Light in Lubec, Maine.
It doesn't support the matching colors, which I know you can see from photos, but I dont know if this really rises to supported by a reliable source for the hook. nableezy - 16:19, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Im sorry, maybe I just dont have enough background here, but the tourism site just says
- Sure thing; I'll note the "statement" is essentially just that this pair of lighthouses exists on the bay. If a simple tourism page would work, there's this one from the New Brunswick tourism department's website, noting that the lighthouse is twinned with West Quoddy. If something more 'serious' would be preferred, I'd have to cite a pair of pages, like this one from the official Canadian Register of Historic Places website, in conjunction with this one from the offician American National Register of Historic Places website. These don't reference one another, but they site the location in the same bay. Hopefully one of these options would work! Garnet Moss (talk) 03:29, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- It is secondary sure, but it is self-published and I dont see anything indicating the author has academic works on the topic to make it a usable self-published source. So yes, please do include some other source for the statement. Thanks, nableezy - 14:17, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Garnet Moss: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 18:24, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Not entirely sure how to respond, I disagree with that assessment. They're sister lights, as is described in multiple sources, and their colors match. I think the sourcing is adequate. But if the consensus is against that, then I could just rewrite it! Maybe something along the lines of "... that East Quoddy Head Lighthouse (pictured) and West Quoddy Head Light are twin lighthouses on Passamaquoddy Bay, one in Canada and the other in the United States?" Or I'm happy to take other suggestions. Garnet Moss (talk) 02:32, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Passing through; but you can keep the original ALT0, I think—except the rather unencyclopedic bit about color?—using
- Jones, Ray (2023). Lighthouses of New England: From Maine to Long Island Sound. Rowman & Littlefield. pp. 7–8. ISBN 978-1-4930-4727-7.
Or, how about, something more "ironic" (author's words not mine!):
ALT1 ... that the most easterly point of the United States is the West Quoddy Head Lighthouse, off the coast of Maine?
The name of this light is ironic, since the tower stands on the easternmost point of land in the United States. Situated on a forty-foot-high cliff, the light overlooks Quoddy Narrows, which separates the United States from Canada. Across this channel lies Campobello Island, with East Quoddy Head at its northeastern end; hence the name West Quoddy Head for the American light. West Quoddy is among the oldest lights in Maine.
Will review if required. Paging discussants: @Garnet Moss, Z1720, and Nableezy:. Cheers, ——Serial Number 54129 18:23, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your input, that's a great additional source and a good idea for an alternative basis for the DYK. I'd propose an amended original, plus a new version based on your suggestion, whichever is preferred! First,
- Alt2 * "... that there is an East Quoddy Head Lighthouse (pictured) and a West Quoddy Head Lighthouse across the bay from one another, but that one is in Canada and the other is in the United States?"
- and second,
- Alt 3 "... that despite being the easternmost point of the United States, the lighthouse on Campobello Island is called West Quoddy Head Lighthouse, and that its sister beacon, East Quoddy Head Lighthouse (pictured), sits across the bay in Canada?"
- What do people think? Garnet Moss (talk) 18:37, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
I agree that the hook/source from Serial Number 54129 works, and if he wants to review I'm happy to withdraw from this one. nableezy - 18:30, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Serial Number 54129: Do you plan on returning to this nom?--Launchballer 10:30, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies @Launchballer and Nableezy: I'm afraid I forgot about this. Nableezy, were you thinking of passing ALT1? I have no problem passing it over to you if that's OK (perhaps greater transparency that way, in any case!). You OK with that? ——Serial Number 54129 12:58, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Serial Number 54129 all yours. nableezy - 16:51, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies @Launchballer and Nableezy: I'm afraid I forgot about this. Nableezy, were you thinking of passing ALT1? I have no problem passing it over to you if that's OK (perhaps greater transparency that way, in any case!). You OK with that? ——Serial Number 54129 12:58, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Garnet Moss Since everyone seems to waffling on finishing this, I am taking over as reviewer. The article is new enough and long enough. I like Alt3 as a hook. The article currently does not state the hook fact as clearly as in the hook, and it doesn't have an inline citation to a reliable reference. That needs to be fixed before the hook can be approved. There are major WP:Verifiability problems with this article. In general, the referencing needs to be significantly improved before this can pass the WP:DYKCITE criteria. There are several paragraphs ending without inline citations, and much of the article is cited to www.lighthousefriends.com which is a WP:SELFPUBLISHED WP:BLOG. I note that the blogger has done the kindness of providing a bibliography to reliable RS, so I suggest trying to get a hold of those sources, and using those in the article instead. Unfortunately the blog itself is not usable for wikipedia's purposes as a reference. Likewise https://tourismnewbrunswick.ca/listing/head-harbour-lightstation-east-quoddy-head-lightstation , while a government website, is specifically a marketing department and is therefore questionable as a source for its lack of neutrality (if you are trying to trump of tourism, you aren't a neutral source). It also has no attributed author. Both of these websites need to be removed from the article as sources, and a minimum of two high quality independent references must be added to replace them. The source by Jones above is not even cited in the article currently, and would make one good addition to the article. Overall, this article is nowhere close to being ready for DYK. Given the age of the nom, I am putting a one week clock on this article to fix the above issues. If it isn't ready by then, I will be rejecting the hook.4meter4 (talk) 05:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 9[edit]
Ancient Jewish art
- ... that ancient Jewish art in late antiquity is epitomized by the biblical themed murals of the Dura-Europos synagogue in Syria? Source: Rachel, Hachlili (1998). Ancient jewish art and archaeology in the diaspora. Brill. ISBN 978-9004108783. OCLC 470279305. https://search.worldcat.org/title/470279305
- Reviewed:
Created by Homerethegreat (talk). Self-nominated at 19:22, 14 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ancient Jewish art; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing: - n
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - n
- Interesting:
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: QPQ not needed. The article contains significant uncited material, and the hook fact is not itself cited in the article. These issues need to be resolved Homerethegreat. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:02, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Homerethegreat: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 02:35, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
I've added the sentence in a clear manner as requested. Apologies for the late response. Homerethegreat (talk) 21:05, 2 March 2024 (UTC) Regarding sourcing, is this alright: https://smarthistory.org/synagogue-dura-europos/ ? Thank you for your time. Homerethegreat (talk) 21:09, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: Is this ready to be approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 18:36, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- there are still entire paragraphs with no citations, failing WP:DYKCITE. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:24, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Sorry @AirshipJungleman29:, @Z1720: I did not notice, I must have associated the outline with the lead for some reason. I've fixed it. Anything else? Homerethegreat (talk) 07:07, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: Have your concerns been resolved? Is there anything else that needs to happen for this to be approved? Z1720 (talk) 15:03, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see where the article states, or which citation supports, the assertion that Dura-Europa "epitomizes" ancient Jewish art. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, and it plainly isn't true! When the murals were uncovered about a century ago everyone was astonished. There might be a hook in that. For refs see the article on the site, which I've linked in the hook. Johnbod (talk) 02:21, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Homerethegreat: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 19:07, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- To clarify, any number of hooks saying that they are the most impressive/extensive etc ancient Jewish murals would be correct, & should be easy to reference. What they are emphatically not is in any way typical of other survivals. They are unique & stand alone, so "epitome" is not the right word. Johnbod (talk) 04:59, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Homerethegreat: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 19:07, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, and it plainly isn't true! When the murals were uncovered about a century ago everyone was astonished. There might be a hook in that. For refs see the article on the site, which I've linked in the hook. Johnbod (talk) 02:21, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see where the article states, or which citation supports, the assertion that Dura-Europa "epitomizes" ancient Jewish art. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: Have your concerns been resolved? Is there anything else that needs to happen for this to be approved? Z1720 (talk) 15:03, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
Apologies for late response but I will be able to address the issue only later. In the meanwhile if you prefer another word to “epitome” than please feel free to change to whatever best suits Wiki rules, I agree it’s not the right word in retrospect so it can be changed to “characterized”. Thank you for the understanding. Homerethegreat (talk) 07:41, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- If the issues cannot be addressed in a timely manner, the DYK should be closed as unsuccessful. The review was started a month and a half ago and the problems have still not been fixed. Fritzmann (message me) 15:40, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- ' The article is currently in a good state and the verification issues were addressed. However, the hook as written does not match the text of the article. Even with the suggested language modification, it doesn't really work. We need a new hook. Given the age of the nom, I'm putting a time clock of one week to get a new hook proposed and passed. @ Homerethegreat Please provide a new hook. The hook must match exactly or close to exactly the prose text found within the article with an inline citation to a reliable source. The failure of the last hook was largely due to the fact that article's prose did not match the hook fact closely. Keep that in mind when proposing a new hook. Get this done ASAP or we will be rejecting this nomination.4meter4 (talk) 16:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- I propose the following:
- alt1 ... did you know that in ancient Jewish art, symbolic motifs such as the menorah were incorporated, the latter becoming a symbol of the Jewish people? “ citation: https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/jewa/hd_jewa.htm
- I hope this is alright, feel free to change it. Thank you for the opportunity to try again. Homerethegreat (talk) 18:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Homerethegreat This is a good attempt but I notice that the article itself has a more nuanced take on the use of the menorah. I would suggest the following based on the article's language:
- alt2 ... that in ancient Jewish art the menorah was originally used sparingly, but after the destruction of the Second Temple it evolved into a frequently used symbol of the Jewish people?
- I will need another reviewer to examine this hook since I proposed it. @Homerethegreat It would be helpful to that reviewer to provide the sources for that information to verify the hook below. 4meter4 (talk) 20:21, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- 4meter4 Sure no problem, but perhaps it’s best to say Second Temple since the first temple was also destroyed and we don’t want to confuse anyone. Homerethegreat (talk) 04:41, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer for alt2 hook needed.4meter4 (talk) 20:21, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Let's see an end-of-sentence citation for the sentence containing the word 'sparingly'.--Launchballer 20:33, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Homerethegreat did you see the comment by Launchballer He is requesting that an inline citation be added to the sentence: "Symbols such as the menorah and the shewbread table were used sparingly, primarily as representations of priestly duties." At DYK we require any sentence with content found in a hook fact to have an inline citation directly following that information. It can't just be a citation at the end of a paragraph.4meter4 (talk) 15:52, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing it out 4meter4, I clarified the sentence pointed out by Launchballer and added an inline citation directly based on the source, it is in Hebrew and speaks also of Jewish religious authorities initially opposing such figurative expressions of the objects of the Temple. Is there anything else? Homerethegreat (talk) 19:32, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer does this satisfy your concerns?4meter4 (talk) 19:47, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- I have just noticed a large amount of close paraphrasing in the article; see the talk page for an example. The article has been tagged, and will likely need a near-complete rewrite. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:47, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 13[edit]
Marcelino Gutiérrez
- ... that Marcelino Gutiérrez was the only surviving brother that led the Gutiérrez Brothers' rebellion against elected president of Peru Manuel Pardo? Source: La República: Tomás Gutiérrez, la historia del militar que dio un golpe de estado y murió colgado en una Catedral
- Reviewed:
Created by AlejandroFC (talk) and 2x2leax (talk). Nominated by 2x2leax (talk) at 22:03, 20 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Marcelino Gutiérrez; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- @2x2leax: Since this is your sixth nomination, you will need to provide a QPQ for this to proceed. Z1720 (talk) 19:24, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: I have done edits on this nomination for QPQ before starting this one. Are those edits valid? --2x2leax (talk) 20:50, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- @2x2leax: Did you review all of the criteria in that nomination? All I see is that you reviewed the ALT1 hook. Z1720 (talk) 00:35, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: I have done edits on this nomination for QPQ before starting this one. Are those edits valid? --2x2leax (talk) 20:50, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Revieewer needed. Z1720 (talk) 19:10, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- No, that absolutely does not count as a WP:QPQ. Please complete a full review of another article, assessing the criteria at WP:DYKRI.--Launchballer 20:58, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- @ Launchballer I am going to overule this and agree with Z1720 that we should accept it as a QPQ given that 2x2leax did the work of getting that hook over into the approved side of a DYK. The whole point of QPQ is to clear the backlog, and 2x2 did the work of sheperding another person's hook nomination past the finish line. Given that 2x2leax is just barely past the five DYK mark, I would say this counts as a good faith attempt at a first QPQ. Let's not clog up DYK by being pedantic over QPQ rules, and let a proper review of this nom go forward so we can get it cleared.4meter4 (talk) 16:45, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer needed.4meter4 (talk) 16:45, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @2x2leax: Created on the 13th and nominated within seven days and the article is 2751 characters so it is long enough. The QPQ is done, the tone of the article is neutral and the hook is interesting.
- First, the hook fact is cited and in the lead. It is best practice to use the lead as a summary/introduction and then cite that material in the body. it is not a Disqualifier the way you did it.
- Second, there is a citation needed tag which needs attention.
- Earwig does not alert to issues but there are foreign language sources.
- ? What makes familysearch (citation 5) a reliable source? Bruxton (talk) 01:53, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 15[edit]
Akshayapureeswarar Temple
- ... that the Hindu god Shani is worshipped for protection from fear, accident, death and enemies in the 13th-century Akshayapureeswarar Temple (pictured)? Source: https://www.maalaimalar.com/devotional/temples/2022/05/03134117/3739214/Akshayapureeswarar-Temple-Vilankulam.vpf?infinitescroll=1
Created by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self-nominated at 04:09, 19 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Akshayapureeswarar Temple; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Article is new enough and long enough. Hook fact accepted in good faith to foreign language source. However, the article uses only two references, only one of which appears to be reliable. The temple.dinamalar.com website appears to be a user generated website with no editorial controls. It should be removed entirely from the article as an unreliable source. All that remains would be the article from Maalaimalar: Tamil News; which is fine as a news source. What's sorely lacking here is any reference works from a reliable publisher with a more academic look at the temple. There really needs to be some better references added to the article to pass WP:DYKCITE.4meter4 (talk) 00:37, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- 4meter4, temple.dinamalar.com is a temple-centric website by Dinamalar, not user-generated. The original website is in Tamil language. Maalai Malar and Dinamalar are both established news houses. I have also added the Tamil Times of India version reference.Redtigerxyz Talk 05:47, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hmmm... There's no attributed author. It looks more like a business listing. I'm not sure that this would constitute an independent reference or not. It would be helpful to know whether this was an independently put together listing, or whether the news service was paid to host these pages by participating temples. Is there some place where the website is explained in terms of editorial process/controls over these temple pages? 4meter4 (talk) 06:01, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- 4meter4, https://temple.dinamalar.com/ - the main website is in Tamil, is very active with news items on temples. Dinamalar also publishes a Tamil temple-centric weekly magazine (Anmega Malar) https://ipaper.dinamalar.com/#anmegamalar, which is also linked in the main Tamil site. The article is also available on https://temple.dinamalar.com/new.php?id=1379, the Tamil site. I have added other Kannada and Hindi references.Redtigerxyz Talk 12:00, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hmmm... There's no attributed author. It looks more like a business listing. I'm not sure that this would constitute an independent reference or not. It would be helpful to know whether this was an independently put together listing, or whether the news service was paid to host these pages by participating temples. Is there some place where the website is explained in terms of editorial process/controls over these temple pages? 4meter4 (talk) 06:01, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have tagged a section of the article for unencyclopedic tone, which will need to be fixed before a DYK appearance. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:40, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Redtigerxyz Have you seen this?4meter4 (talk) 18:42, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks 4meter4. I have contacted User_talk:AirshipJungleman29#Akshayapureeswarar_Temple. Not sure how to tackle the tag. IMHO, the legend section is written similarly for other Hinduism articles. I am okay if the section is removed for the DYK and we can work on the section in due courseof time.Redtigerxyz Talk 03:47, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 16[edit]
Biodiversity Impact Credit
... that species extinctions can be stopped by buying Biodiversity Impact Credits?- ... that species extinction risk can be reduced by buying Biodiversity Impact Credits? Source: In Biodiversity Impact Credit: Biodiversity Impact Credit (BIC) is a transferable biodiversity credit designed to reduce global species extinction risk.
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- Comment: Am a novice, please advise if I got this wrong.
Created by Pinkchiken (talk). Self-nominated at 11:03, 15 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Biodiversity Impact Credit; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Comment. @Pinkchiken: Your hook oversimplifies and overpromises. "Designed to reduce risk" is not the same as "all you have to do is buy these Biodiversity Impact Credit to stop species extinction" which is what the hook you originally proposed suggests. Cielquiparle (talk) 08:53, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Response. @Cielquiparle: Good point. I'd like to change the hook to "... that species extinction risk can be reduced by buying Biodiversity Impact Credits?" This version does not over-promise. You can buy the credits only if there is a corresponding project which has generated a reduction in mean species extinction risk. When you buy the credit, you cover the cost of the project (or part of), so you contribute to making it happen. If this logic was not correct we'd not be allowed to say that a donation to Oxfam reduces poverty in the world. Please could you help me revise the proposal such that it does not return to the back of the queue? Pinkchiken 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- My suggestion would be along the lines of:
- ALT1: ... that Biodiversity Impact Credits seek to stop species extinctions?
- @Pinkchiken: I have suggested a better "safer" ALT hook above. Thus I am no longer eligible to review this, but perhaps we can find another reviewer now. Cielquiparle (talk) 06:29, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Cielquiparle: Thank you. What I meant to ask was how to technically revise the proposal. But I think I got it: I just edited the text in this page. Let's see what another reviewer thinks. I'm trying to avoid watering the hook down so much that it might become unattractive to readers.
Needs a full review. Cielquiparle (talk) 06:29, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Article was nominated within a week of being moved to mainspace from AfC, so is new enough. I'm not even going to check the length, it is way more than long enough. The article is properly in-line cited and the copyvio detector finds no issues. The hook topic is kind of the entire topic of the article, so there's multiple sentences I could say are cited in-line for it. So I'm going to count that one as good. Honestly, Cielquiparle, I prefer Pinkchiken's hook. I find it to still be an accurate description and it's a more interesting, quippy way to phrase things. Other than that, they're a new nominator, so no QPQ is required. Looks good to go! SilverserenC 16:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Silver seren: Sure, ALT0 may be a quippier hook, but it's possible during a 24-hour run on the main page that another reader like myself will ask where the evidence is that they do in fact reduce species extinction risk...especially if the source cited is so WP:WEASEL in wording. In which case at least you have a backup hook now rather than have to pull the hook entirely. Cielquiparle (talk) 19:26, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Needs more work. Referencing isn't up to scratch as discussed at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Biodiversity Impact Credit. I would also suggest that the content of the lead be distributed throughout the article, and a new lead be written that summarises the article. This would make the article comply with WP:LEAD. I'd fail this nomination if this aspect wasn't tidied up. Schwede66 23:41, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Pinkchiken Did you see the comment by Schwede66?4meter4 (talk) 18:01, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @4meter4 Yes, thank you for the alert, keenly aware! Will have time to look at this over the weekend 19:06, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Pinkchiken Did you see the comment by Schwede66?4meter4 (talk) 18:01, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Lapse (social network)
- ... that Lapse, a social media app, reached #1 on the App Store by requiring prospective users to invite their friends? Source: Perez, Sarah Photo-sharing app Lapse hits top of the App Store by forcing you to invite your friends. TechCrunch. "Forget invite-only social apps, Lapse is testing a new technique to acquire its users: It forces you to invite your friends in order to get in."
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Created by I'm tla (talk). Self-nominated at 08:36, 16 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lapse (social network); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Article length borders on the weak side and, more importantly, the hook fact is actually missing from the article itself. Shouldn't be a long way away from being good to go though! Cheers, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 16:56, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- @I'm tla: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 02:41, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce: I've added the hook paraphrased in the 2023 re-release section. I'm still doing research on thinking about expansion, but made sure the lede meets requirements. TLAtlak 07:06, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce: Have all of the concerns been resolved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 19:22, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
New reviewer required unless Kingoflettuce returns. Z1720 (talk) 15:09, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- My bad, totally missed the ping. The hook is still a little iffy though. Granted that's what the source suggests, but technically the full hook fact is not in the article. What is currently explained in the article is how one is "forced" into inviting one's friends (perhaps the hook should make that clear too), but that does not necessarily lead to an app topping the charts. Just tighten the hook and we should be good to go! Cheers, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 16:20, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 18[edit]
Articles created/expanded on February 20[edit]
Todd Leslie
- ... that on the night Todd Leslie set an NCAA Division I three point shot record by shooting 6–6, Larry Hisle went 7–7 to tie a Big Ten record? Source: https://bigten.org/documents/2023/11/15/23_24_Men_s_Basketball_Media_Guide.pdf
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Texas Hold 'Em (song)
- Comment: 2nd of 2 QPQs for this nomination
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 00:57, 21 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Todd Leslie; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- The currently-proposed hook is a bit hard to understand or read. Maybe it can be rephrased to make the context clearer? In addition, context as to who Larry Hisle is may need to be added since not everyone worldwide is familiar with NCAA sports. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:38, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that on the night that Todd Leslie shot 6–6 on three point shots to set an NCAA Division I record someone went 7–7 to tie a Big Ten three point record?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:20, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- To my knowledge Hisle is not really notable.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:20, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- That only makes the hook worse in my opinion. A different angle is probably needed here then. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:29, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that it took four games for Todd Leslie to set the NCAA Division I record of fifteen consecutive three point shots made?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:49, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 23[edit]
Kent Melton
- ... that Kent Melton, an artist who created sculptures and reference maquettes for The Walt Disney Company, Hanna-Barbera, and Warner Brothers, never received formal artistic training? Source: “I've been an artist all my life," Melton said from his Ozarks home, shortly before catching a flight to the West Coast for work. "I never had any real formal art training. There wasn't art in my school, but I knew I was an artist. I was compulsive about art from the day I was born."” Springfield News-Leader
Created by Thriley (talk) and Erksahin (talk). Nominated by Thriley (talk) at 17:42, 1 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kent Melton; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - Close paraphrasing found here
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Overall: Some close paraphrasing was found, that will need to be corrected. Also the QPQ still needs to be done. grungaloo (talk) 23:01, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi Thriley, thanks for doing the QPQ. Some close paraphrasing still needs to be addressed. Earwig is picking up the movie titles which aren't an issue, but some sentences are also being flagged. Once those are addressed this can be approved. Thanks! grungaloo (talk) 02:23, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Postinflammatory hyperpigmentation
- ... that after an outbreak of acne, some people notice that their skin darkens for up to 12 months? Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK559150/#article-27519.s8 - Etiology section
- ALT1: ... that although postinflammatory hyperpigmentation disappears within 12 months without treatment, some people get laser therapy to correct it sooner? Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK559150/#article-27519.s8 - Treatment/Management section, subsection Laser Therapy.
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- Comment: Do not need QPQ yet
Created by Just-a-can-of-beans (talk). Self-nominated at 02:38, 1 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Postinflammatory hyperpigmentation; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems: - Not a real problem for the purpose of this review, but reference 4 is only a commentary to a primary source (a stand-alone study), so not a good WP:MEDRS; it's serves as a source to only one sentence though.
Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - The first hook references an article by StatPearls, which is a potentially controversial source - see for example this discussion. Moreover, according to the StatPearl source, PIH may in some cases take years to resolve without treatment. On the other hand, acne as a cause of PIH is non-controversial (the hook could be citing reference number 3); and reference number 2 does mention that it resolves in most cases "within 6–12 months of treating the underlying inflammatory condition". Both these references are perfect medical sources anyway, so I think all will be fine if these two references are cited for the hook instead. Some rephrasing may also be warrantied, to allow for the facts that acne needs to be treated (or resolve) for PIH to go away; that hyperpigmentation is not generalized, but localized (ref 2: "brown, black, or gray macules or patches in the pattern of an underlying inflammatory condition"); and that it can be even more than 12 months. ALT1, is fine, though it can also cite ref 3.
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Overall: Primary hook more interesting and catchy than ALT1. With some changes in the hook and the hook's reference, as described above, I strongly urge advancing it; this is my second DYK review, so I would appreciate a more experienced reviewer to make the final decision. NikosGouliaros (talk) 23:20, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Review seems good. I'd probably note for posterity that Earwig has some invalid concerns.--Launchballer 08:45, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Just-a-can-of-beans: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 19:17, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- Experienced reviewer needed to make the final decision (i.e., post appropriate icon below) on this nomination. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:37, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Just-a-can-of-beans: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 19:17, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
List of instruments used in endocrinology
- ... that instruments used in endocrinology include a string of testicle-shaped beads? Sources: Martine, E, ed. (2015). Concise medical dictionary (Ninth ed.). Oxford: OUP. p. 540. ISBN 9780191059575. Retrieved 24 February 2024.
The Prader orchidometer consists of a collection of testicle-shaped beads of different sizes...
; Niederberger, C (2011). "Clinical evaluation of the male". In Niederberger, C (ed.). An Introduction to Male Reproductive Medicine. Cambridge University Press. p. 38. ISBN 9781139493932. Retrieved 19 February 2024.The Prader orchidometer consists of a string of oval-shaped beads...
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- Comment: Image only a schematic and therefore optional. The article's prose size is measured as
48 words197 words or 1428 characters, but obviously not including its main body, which, as often with stand-alone lists, is actually a table. I therefore humbly request an exception to the rule of 1500 characters. First DYK nomination. On a tangent from the Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles/Backlog drives/February 2024.
5x expanded by NikosGouliaros (talk). Self-nominated at 22:34, 24 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/List of instruments used in endocrinology; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- The problem I have with this article is that this isn't a particularly 'good' 1,400+ characters; lose the three WP:SEAOFBLUE lists, and we're at little over 1,000. Even if we were to count the content in boxes, virtually all of the Description column is unsourced. I am reminded of arguments made earlier this month at 2024 Netball Nations Cup. In short, I wouldn't say no, but I'd want to see some more work on this. (Note also that I do my QPQs oldest first; other editors are free to jump in ahead of me.)--Launchballer 10:39, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Thank you for your review! I understand the policies; I still think that the table contains some substantial prose, and substantial encyclopedic content (unlike - I dare say - 2024 Netball Nations Cup). I believe the table format works well here, and changing it to prose would not serve a purpose other than to make it DYK-eligible. I do not think your concerns that the lead is not very substantial are unwarranted; though I truly don't think more introductory content, other than an outline of endocrinology as a medical specialty, is either needed, or indeed to be located in the sources. My seas of blue - which by the way are not the truest ones, as they are separated by commas - serve exactly to outline endocrinology, and I don't see why they should be excluded.
- As regards citations, they are absent from (almost) all boxes in the Description column because the citations in the end of each row, under Uses, cover the respective descriptions as well. My research before nominating yielded few standalone lists in the DYK archives that I could use as guides, and not an absolutely clear policy on where in a table row inline citations must be placed. (Full disclosure: I do not exactly comprehend what WP:WHENNOTCITE tries to say about lists and tables). I also note Featured Lists from the sciences with somewhat comparable ostensibly uncited columns, like List of parasites of the marsh rice rat or Camouflage methods. In any case, the description of the ultrasound system is in citation 4, of a continuous glucose monitor in citations 7 and 8, and so on. Still, if you feel inline citations should be repeated there as well, that's no biggy.
- Thoughts? NikosGouliaros (talk) 16:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm with you, this article is a bit better than the cup article. With the benefit of a few days, I wonder if it's worth letting the lists 'breathe' a bit, for example "the hypothalamus, the pituitary gland, the thyroid" or "various diseases of the thyroid gland such as X, various metabolic bone disorders such as Y". I made a test edit, and I got it up to 1,497 without the "such as"es.--Launchballer 10:29, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- @NikosGouliaros: If you're still around, please respond to the above.--Launchballer 23:49, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm with you, this article is a bit better than the cup article. With the benefit of a few days, I wonder if it's worth letting the lists 'breathe' a bit, for example "the hypothalamus, the pituitary gland, the thyroid" or "various diseases of the thyroid gland such as X, various metabolic bone disorders such as Y". I made a test edit, and I got it up to 1,497 without the "such as"es.--Launchballer 10:29, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 24[edit]
Thorpe, North Yorkshire
- ... that Thorpe's lynchet hills, would have provided seclusion from Scottish raiders and English Civil War troops? Source: [1][2]
Created by The joy of all things (talk). Nominated by Bogger (talk) at 12:51, 25 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Thorpe, North Yorkshire; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Not sure this wording works. It was (according to the article) Thorpe's seclusion that made the village a save haven from raiders. This wording makes it sounds like the strip lynchets (farming terraces) had some sort of defensive function, which they don't. Dave.Dunford (talk) 09:31, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- @The joy of all things and Bogger: can you respond to the above? Kingsif (talk) 00:55, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough, removing link to lynchets,
ALT1:... that Thorpe's secluded hills, provided refuge from Scottish raiders and English Civil War troops? Source: Speight 1892
- Fair enough, removing link to lynchets,
-Bogger (talk) 09:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I apologise if I worded it incorrectly in the article, but the seclusion of the village being surrounded by reef knolls made it a safe haven during Scottish raids and the Civil War. The strip lynchets are an agricultural process, and are not defensive in any way. Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 11:53, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Ellwood, Ken (2011). Skipton & the Dales through time. Stroud: Amberley Publishing. p. 53. ISBN 978-1-84868-562-8.
- ^ Speight, Harry (1892). The Craven and north-west Yorkshire highlands. Being a complete account of the history, scenery, and antiquities of that romantic district. London: E Stock. p. 293. OCLC 7219082.
Articles created/expanded on February 25[edit]
Canadian Dental Care Plan
- ... that the Canadian Dental Care Plan is currently being rolled out by the Government of Canada to eligible residents? Source: "Applications will first open to eligible seniors aged 87 and older. Applications for other age groups will then be phased in with a staggered approach, with the process opening up to all eligible applicants aged 18 and above sometime in 2025." Canada's new dental care plan could impact nearly 9 million Canadians — are you one of them?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ponte Madonna della Stella; see my DYK tracker
Moved to mainspace by Mindmatrix (talk). Self-nominated at 01:06, 25 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Canadian Dental Care Plan; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- QPQ done, new enough, no copy vio, everythings fine except the hook seems boring. It reads like a ad and gives no context to who "eligible residents" are. Possible a complelling hook could be made with the 1 million figure?. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 03:42, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- Throwing a @Mindmatrix: in. I was just about to review this and had the very same thought. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:43, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- A good start for a hook would be ALT1: ... that as of 6 March 2024, over one million applications for the Canadian Dental Care Plan had been approved?--Launchballer 23:09, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- I guess I should probably ping Mindmatrix.--Launchballer 23:53, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- A good start for a hook would be ALT1: ... that as of 6 March 2024, over one million applications for the Canadian Dental Care Plan had been approved?--Launchballer 23:09, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 29[edit]
Phaedon cochleariae
- ... that fitness influences the personality of mustard leaf beetles? Source: Müller, Thorben; Juškauskas, Augustinas (2018-04-01). "Inbreeding affects personality and fitness of a leaf beetle". Animal Behaviour. 138: 29–37. doi:10.1016/j.anbehav.2018.02.002. ISSN 0003-3472. S2CID 54420066.
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5x expanded by MidnightBarber (talk). Self-nominated at 03:26, 1 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Phaedon cochleariae; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Comment only I've placed a citation needed tag. Müller (2016) produces a referencing error. You might want to fix those two issues before this can go anywhere. Schwede66 21:59, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- @MidnightBarber: Please respond to this priority issue or this nomination may be closed. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:59, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: I fixed the referencing error, it seemed like I cited it as journal when it was actually a conference. If I cited it incorrectly please let me know. I rephrased where there previously was a citation needed tag so my intention is more clear. I think that's all of them fixed, but I'm more than happy to edit something if it's not up to standard. User: MidnightBarber
- @MidnightBarber: (By the way: sign your posts with ~~~~ in the same edit for pings to work.) New enough and long enough. Nominator is new to DYK and does not need to review another page. Hook fact checks out to provided source and is in article with citation. Priority item: The line Their elytra are a reflective dark blue-green color and are abundantly dotted with dorsal glands in a parallel lined pattern. Their antennae are black in color. This species of leaf beetle has not been thoroughly studied for any notable sexually dimorphic traits. needs to be cited. Is it also possible to increase the citation density a bit such that entire paragraphs cited to one source can be more granularly identified where in the source each item comes from? Ping me when you can respond to those issues. (Also having someone in WP:DISCORD help me clean up some of the citations to use citation templates.) Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:14, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 1[edit]
Nebria brevicollis
- ... that flight arrest within the carabid beetle Nebria brevicollis allows for larger ovaries and eggs? Source: Nelemans, M. N. E. (1987-07-01). "Possibilities for flight in the carabid beetle Nebria brevicollis (F.)". Oecologia. 72 (4): 502–509.
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Created by L.marcoymarquez (talk). Self-nominated at 16:08, 1 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Nebria brevicollis; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Note: the nomination says that this was created by the nominator, but actually the article was created in 2009. It however appears to be a 5x expansion; as such, the article should be reviewed as a 5x expansion rather than as a newly-created article. Note that the nominator hasn't edited since the 2nd and is part of a WikiEd class, so these are to be kept in mind by the reviewer. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:14, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- @L.marcoymarquez: Hi Lara, the page is new enough as a 5x expansion and large enough. The nominator is new and does not need to review another nomination. The hook fact checks out, and I was able to access the journal source. The primary issue is that there are two uncited sections that require citation to a source:
As an emerging field of interest, researchers plan to conduct further studies in which a wider range of learning assays are tested to understand the cognition-personality relationships of N. brevicollis.
andConditions of low food supply can negatively influence both the number of eggs produced and the viability of the eggs.
If you can cite these, we are likely ready for DYK. (Note: Editor last edited on 19 March. Will be pinging and emailing.) Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:55, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Thistle tortoise beetle
- ... that the thistle tortoise beetle (pictured) uses its own feces to build a mobile shield to protect itself from predators? Source: Eisner, Thomas; van Tassell, Eileen; Carrel, James E. (1967-12-15). "Defensive Use of a "Fecal Shield" by a Beetle Larva". Science. 158 (3807): 1471–1473. Bibcode:1967Sci...158.1471E. doi:10.1126/science.158.3807.1471. ISSN 0036-8075. PMID 6058687. S2CID 23033169.
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5x expanded by Justinxuje (talk). Self-nominated at 05:39, 1 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Thistle tortoise beetle; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- I forgot to change the status of this article to 5x expanded. Would it be possible to modify it now or should I submit a new nomination? Justinxuje (talk) 14:54, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: The nominator hasn't edited since the 5th and a 5x expansion has not been accomplished. The nom is part of a WikiEd class that runs through April. Should we wait for them to return or should the nomination be marked for closure? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:12, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think by the time April rolls around, it will have been more than four weeks, and I don't think it's reasonable to wait that long. I say leave it another couple of days, and then close this with a strong recommendation for Justinxuje to put this through GA.--Launchballer 00:08, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Given the lack of a response from the nominator it unfortunately doesn't seem like there's a path forward for this nomination as of this time. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:45, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- The article is currently undergoing a GA review, so I would keep this open for another week at least while it is being worked on by Justinxuje in response to the reviewer's comments. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:36, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- Given the lack of a response from the nominator it unfortunately doesn't seem like there's a path forward for this nomination as of this time. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:45, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think by the time April rolls around, it will have been more than four weeks, and I don't think it's reasonable to wait that long. I say leave it another couple of days, and then close this with a strong recommendation for Justinxuje to put this through GA.--Launchballer 00:08, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Chrysochus cobaltinus
- ... that C. cobaltinus male beetles remain on the female beetle's back after mating to increase their chance for fatherhood? Source: Dickinson, J. L. (1995). Trade-offs between postcopulatory riding and mate location in the blue milkweed beetle. Behavioral Ecology, 6(3), 280–286. https://doi.org/10.1093/beheco/6.3.280
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5x expanded by Hahelen (talk). Self-nominated at 04:05, 1 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Chrysochus cobaltinus; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Seems to be 3.5x, from around 5800 to 20,000. AryKun (talk) 16:21, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- AryKun, the 5x expansion rule applies to prose, not page size. As the article has grown from 379 words to over 2000, it is eligible. Please continue with your review. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 08:56, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
@Hahelen:, I'll take this over. There are multiple uncited paragraphs that have been delinquent for some time now. I will fail this if it's not resolved within the next few days. You've had over a month to resolved them and were last notified 20 days ago that these are an issue. 🏵️Etrius ( Us) 01:21, 3 April 2024 (UTC) General eligibility:
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Overall: QPQ not necessary. No pics. The hook is clunky and poorly worded (It begs, the question more than giving a snappy factoid) there might be something interesting in there but you're gonna have to reword it or provide an alternative. Spotchecks find the phrase The elytra usually have more or less evident epipleura
, which is pushing some close paraphrasing. Earwig is clear. Multiple citations are missing from the prompt. 🏵️Etrius ( Us) 01:32, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 2[edit]
Wolvesey Palace
- ... that the 17th-century Wolvesey Palace reuses a 15th-century chapel from Wolvesey Castle built on 12th-century remains? Source: "The Chapel [...] was built c.1442-7 on Norman foundations." - Kipling and Scott-Joynt, Wolvesey and the Collection of Episcopal Portraits; "The new residence begun for Bishop Morley (1662-84) [...] the medieval chapel, which Fitch retained [...] raised up on the infilled remains of a C12 lower room" - Pesvner Architectural Guide.
- ALT1: ... that George Morley tried to renovate Wolvesey Castle, including by cleaning the moat, before deciding to build Wolvesey Palace? Source: "In the C17 Bishop George Morley carried out extensive work in cleaning the moat, wainscoting the dining room, building a muniment house and refurbishing the chapel. [...] Near the end of his episcopate, Bishop Morley (1662-84) took the decision to replace the medieval palace with a new residence in the Baroque style immediately to the south." - [1]
- ALT2: ... that the wool house of Wolvesey Castle was converted to the coach house and stables of Wolvesey Palace? Source: "Bishop Sir Jonathan Trawley (1707-21) converted the great wool house into a coach house and stables" - [2]
- Reviewed: N/A
- Comment: This is my second DYK nomination.
Created by Godtres (talk). Self-nominated at 10:12, 3 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Wolvesey Palace; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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The site of Wolvesey has been the home of the Bishop of Winchester since at least the late 10th century
". This seems to contradict the idea that the castle was built on remains from the 12th century. I would be interested in seeing this explained a bit more in the article for clarity. Further, I am more interested in ALT1.
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Overall: Article was created as a redirect in 2011, then Godtres created the article on March 2, 2024. There are some questions regarding specific dates, as well as discussion regarding the remains noted above. Otherwise, I think this is looking good. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 16:51, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
@Significa liberdade: Thank you so much for taking the time to review this nomination and the article itself. All your suggestions have been helpful, although I have made a few further edits. I've hopefully reworded the article to be clearer on the 12th-century remains. The buildings before the 12th century were not stone, so have been entirely destroyed. There was a chapel built in the 12th century (one of the first stone buildings). A new chapel was built in the 15th century on its remains, which survives. The rest of the palace was not built on 12th century remains. I worry with ALT1 that it is more relevant to Wolvesey Castle than Wolvesey Palace, which is the article I am nominating. Godtres (talk) 17:10, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Savungaz Valincinan
- ... that an activist changed her name to the 34 character Lee I want to exclusively list my tribal name, my Bunun tribal name is Savungaz Valincinan to protest the use of Chinese characters for Taiwanese Indigenous names? Source: Savungaz Valincinan recently changed her official name to ‘Lee I want to exclusively list my tribal name, my Bunun tribal name is Savungaz Valincinan (李我要單列族名我的布農族名字是Savungaz Valincinan)’. Wongosari, Sarah; Chen, Ying-Tsen (9 January 2024). "Taiwan's indigenous wonder woman runs in election - Salience". Salience. University of Sydney School of Art, Communication and English. Retrieved 29 February 2024.
Li, Wenxin (26 November 2023). "34字!明年大選名字最長立委參選人 盼政府重視單列族名訴求 - 政治 - 自由時報電子報". Liberty Times Net (in Chinese (Taiwan)). Retrieved 29 February 2024.- Reviewed: Coccotrypes dactyliperda
- Comment: If there is a way to shorten this DYK do feel free to suggest an alternative that might flow better, the name is deliberately long though (and thus does take up a lot of character space) and I want to keep the context because I feel like the act in itself is quite hooky and the broader context where it is in makes it make much more sense. Thank you in advance to the reviewer!
Created by Ornithoptera (talk). Self-nominated at 04:03, 2 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Savungaz Valincinan; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- My first thought reading this was "that's not 34 characters". I suggest rearranging this so it ends with her name, such as "that an activist protested use of Chinese characters for Taiwanese Indigenous names by changing hers to Lee I want to exclusively list my tribal name, my Bunun tribal name is Savungaz Valincinan"?--Launchballer 15:35, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Just for some clarity, the (Chinese) name is " 李我要單列族名我的布農族名字是Savungaz Valincinan", which is translated to the following. There are some publications that remark the spectacle of it being 34 characters in length such as: "34 characters! Legislative candidate with the longest name in next year's general election hopes the government will pay attention to the demand for a separate ethnic name" ("34字!明年大選名字最長立委參選人 盼政府重視單列族名訴求 - 政治 - 自由時報電子報") but that is a whole other fish to fry because it removes a bit of the spectacle if I had included a sentence in a whole other language for the hook. I think your hook does streamline things much better so thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ornithoptera (talk • contribs)
- Okay, so to format this properly: ALT1: ... that an activist protested use of Chinese characters for Taiwanese Indigenous names by changing hers to "Lee I want to exclusively list my tribal name, my Bunun tribal name is Savungaz Valincinan"? Full review needed.--Launchballer 11:47, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Very interesting fact! All criteria checks out; however, it seems that the QPQ review given is not valid, as it did not follow the renomination rule properly. Skyshiftertalk 22:09, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Skyshifter:, thank you for taking your time to review this! Hmm, since someone followed up on my QPQ in my place (I wasn't pinged for the following developments), does that nullify that one? I just wanted to clarify before I do another one to fulfill that criterion. Ornithoptera (talk) 20:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I believe the QPQ goes to Gerda Arendt in this case. Skyshiftertalk 20:17, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Skyshifter: hi, thank you for letting me know! I'll try and get back to this next week, been a bit of a busy week with final exams and final projects due on the horizon. Ornithoptera (talk) 17:56, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I believe the QPQ goes to Gerda Arendt in this case. Skyshiftertalk 20:17, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
One Chun
- ... that One Chun, a Michelin Guide Bib Gourmand restaurant, has black-and-white televisions, transistor radios, and antique clocks on its walls? Source: Srivilai, Kasidit (2021-11-05). "Behind The Bib: Retro Decor Meets Phuket Flavours At One Chun. Retro decor harkens authentic Phuket tastes, plus great locally sourced ingredients". Michelin Guide. Archived from the original on 2024-03-02. Retrieved 2024-03-02.
The article notes: "Chessadawan said while showing us a beautiful wall adorned with old clocks, transistor radios, and black-and-white television sets."
Created by Cunard (talk). Self-nominated at 10:11, 2 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/One Chun; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: A finely put together article improving the coverage of food, Southeast Asia, and women. The article was new enough at the time of nomination, and it's long enough. There's a source at the end of every paragraph or quote (at the end of most sentences), and the hook is cited at its sentence. Earwig's detector comes back 20%, which from my reading is attributable to the quotations. The hook is interesting, since a Fifties aesthetic and Michelin fine-dining don't usually go together in one's mind. QPQ is done as well. There are only two minor problems—@Cunard: first, the text of the Time Out Shanghai article on its own doesn't actually make that Bai Liang Phad Khai includes eggs—it only makes clear the leaves and shrimp (the images don't load from where I'm reading, so if the information was in the images, that may be why I'm having trouble verifying that bit). Second, I think the summarization of the Frommer's source to say that both Raya and One Chun serve roast duck and crab curry is slightly off. Frommer's states, Raya’s sister restaurant, One Chun, also serves the famous crab curry along with a host of cheaper Thai classics, like roasted duck in red curry
. The wording of "along with a host of cheaper Thai classics" I think means that while roasted duck is one of the "cheaper Thai classics" that One Chun also serves, alongside the crab curry that both Raya and One Chun serves (meaning Frommer's verifies that One Chun serves roast duck, but not that Raya serves roast duck; it does verify that both serve crab curry). If these minor problems are fixed, I will happily approve the nomination. Feel free to ping me when it's ready. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 05:12, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the detailed review and for catching these issues, Hydrangeans (talk · contribs)! I've implemented the suggestions. Cunard (talk) 05:27, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Excellent! With these matters resolved, I am happy to approve the nomination. Thanks for your contribution to Wikipedia! Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 05:34, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Hydrangeans:
A finely put together article improving the coverage of food, Southeast Asia, and women
Have to disagree with you there, it reads like a press release to me. In fact when I came across it as part of NPP I had to check it wasn't written by a COI editor. Regards John B123 (talk) 19:39, 1 April 2024 (UTC)- I agree and have tagged it as such. It's quite funny how the "Reception" section contains less reception (all positive, of course) than has beem inserted indiscriminately throughout the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:35, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- I revised the article to shorten and have fewer quotes as recommended by Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Impartial tone, which says, "Try not to quote directly from participants engaged in a heated dispute; instead, summarize and present the arguments in an impartial, formal tone." I hope this addresses editors' concerns. As the Wikipedia's article author, I do not have a conflict of interest with the restaurant. Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Due and undue weight says, "Neutrality requires that mainspace articles and pages fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint in those sources". I have complied with this policy by fairly representing reliable sources' viewpoint about the restaurant. Regarding "all positive, of course", I conducted an exhaustive search for reliable sources about the restaurant. I did not find negative coverage of the restaurant in reliable sources. Adding negative information about the restaurant to the article when it is unsupported by reliable sources would violate the neutral point of view and verifiability policies. Cunard (talk) 19:49, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- The minor edits you have made do nothing to make the article less like an advert or press release. IMHO the article needs a complete rewrite. The first major issue is the in-depth coverage of the menu. A good part of the lead and the largest section of the article is devoted to the menu. If you look at similar restaurant articles, the menu only takes up a paragraph at the most. Secondly, it needs to be written more objectively with less 'bigging up'. For example, Thai starlets in the source becomes Thai celebrities in the article. John B123 (talk) 23:14, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Two concerns have been raised: (1) the menu section is too long and (2) the article is not written neutrally. I find the premise of (1) to be inaccurate. I welcome feedback about (2).
If you look at similar restaurant articles, the menu only takes up a paragraph at the most.
– I do not know what the "similar" qualifier in "similar restaurant articles" means. There are featured articles and good articles about restaurants with "Menu" or "Cuisine" sections that are three or more paragraphs long. The only featured article about a restaurant is Sci-Fi Dine-In Theater Restaurant, which has a three-paragraph "Food" section. There are numerous good articles about restaurants. There are good articles with a five-paragraph "Cuisine" section, a four-paragraph "Cuisine" section, a four-paragraph "Menu" section, a three-paragraph "Menu" section, and a three-paragraph "Cuisine" section.Alongside a restaurant's history and decor, its menu and cuisine is a very important part of its background. One Chun's "Dishes" section is three paragraphs, while its "History" and "Decor" sections are much smaller. That is because reliable sources spend considerable space discussing and critiquing the restaurant's dishes, much more than they discuss other aspects of the restaurant like its history and decor. As such, a three-paragraph summary of what the sources said about the menu—and three sentences in the lead—complies with the due weight policy.
Secondly, it needs to be written more objectively with less 'bigging up'. For example, Thai starlets in the source becomes Thai celebrities in the article.
– when revising the article based on comments in this DYK nomination, I paraphrased the "Thai starlets" quote to be "Thai celebrities". As "celebrities" is "bigging up" compared to "starlets", I've modified the sentence to use "Thai starlets" again.The sources are universally positive about the restaurants' dishes and decor. I believe the article complies with Wikipedia:Neutral point of view in fairly representing the sources' viewpoints. I do not believe "the article needs a complete rewrite". I sometimes overlook things like the "Thai celebrities" issue you pointed out, so I welcome specific feedback about how to make it "written more objectively with less 'bigging up'".
- The articles you link to are generally larger articles, so the menu/cuisine sections form a proportionally smaller part of the article.
Reliable sources spend considerable space discussing and critiquing the restaurant's dishes
, most of the references in the Dishes section are short mentions in 'Where to eat in Phuket' type articles or directory entries such as Lonely Planet. WP:NOTPRICE seems to be applicable here: An article should not include product pricing or availability information (which can vary widely with time and location) unless there is an independent source and encyclopedic significance for the mention, which may be indicated by mainstream media sources or books (not just product reviews) providing commentary on these details instead of just passing mention. John B123 (talk) 08:19, 3 April 2024 (UTC)- For the featured and good articles I linked, there is plenty of coverage about the restaurants' history, decor, and menu, so the menu sections must "form a proportionally smaller part of [those] article[s]". For this article, there is less coverage about the restaurant's history and decor but more coverage about the menu, so the menu must form a proportionally larger part of the article. The decision of how much to cover should be done on a case-by-case basis reliant on how much reliable sources cover each area. The length of this Wikipedia article's menu section does not make it violate Wikipedia:Neutral point of view.
WP:NOTPRICE says:
The information in the "Dishes" section is not a "A resource for conducting business". It is not a listing of "products and services". It is not "product pricing or availability information".A resource for conducting business. Neither articles nor their associated talk pages are for conducting the business of the topic of the article. Listings to be avoided include, but are not limited to: business alliances, clients, competitors, employees (except CEOs, supervisory directors and similar top functionaries), equipment, estates, offices, store locations, contact information, patent filings, products and services, sponsors, subdivisions and tourist attractions. An article should not include product pricing or availability information (which can vary widely with time and location) unless there is an independent source and encyclopedic significance for the mention, which may be indicated by mainstream media sources or books (not just product reviews) providing commentary on these details instead of just passing mention. Wikipedia is not a price comparison service to compare prices and availability of competing products or a single product from different vendors. Lists of creative works are permitted. Thus, for example, Wikipedia should not include a list of all books published by HarperCollins, but may include a bibliography of books written by HarperCollins author Veronica Roth.
It is information from "independent source[s]" with "encyclopedic significance for the mention". It is information from "mainstream media sources or books (not just product reviews) providing commentary on these details instead of just passing mention". The "Where to eat in Phuket" type articles and the Lonely Planet book are not "just passing mention[s]". They provide a few sentences to a paragraph about the subject that includes "commentary on these details".
This is why I provided in-text attribution of reviewers' commentary contextualising and critiquing the dishes.
If the first paragraph of the "Dishes" section was written like this, it would violate WP:NOTPRICE for being a listing without any "commentary on details":
But the first paragraph of the "Dishes" section includes "commentary on details" through contextualisation and critiquing so does not violate WP:NOTPRICE:"One's Chun's dishes include crab curry made with coconut milk, Nam Prik Goong Siab, Mu Hong, and roasted red pork."
The "Cuisine" section of the good article Gage and Tollner discusses in substantial detail that restaurant's cuisine and menu throughout the years, while its reception section includes critics' commentary about the cuisine and service. For the "Dishes" section of One Chun's Wikipedia article, I chose to have the menu section include critics' commentary. This is up to editorial discretion. Both approaches are policy-compliant editorial decisions.Lonely Planet's Isabella Noble praised the restaurant for its seafood, citing its crab curry made with coconut milk. One Chun serves Nam Prik Goong Siab, a spicy entrée made with shrimp paste and containing dried shrimp that has been deep fried, giving it a "savoury crunchiness". The dish includes vegetables to alleviate the peppery taste, which Kasidit Srivilai of the Michelin Guide said "balanc[es] the mixture's saltiness and sourness". Two meat dishes are Mu Hong, a pork belly stew made with low-temperature cooking and flavored with the spices pepper and garlic, and roasted red pork.
Cunard (talk) 09:43, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- I note we have gone from
reliable sources spend considerable space discussing and critiquing the restaurant's dishes
toprovide a few sentences to a paragraph about the subject that includes "commentary on these details"
, which is still overgenerous in a lot of cases. In my view the Dishes section is availability information so WP:NOTPRICE is applicable. No matter how you try and fit WP policies and guidelines to what has been written, the article still comes as a promotion for the restaurant. John B123 (talk) 10:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC)- There is no conflict between my two statements. The "Where to eat in Phuket" type articles and the Lonely Planet book provide a few sentences to a paragraph about the restaurant's dishes. Collectively, the reliable sources spend considerable space discussing and critiquing the restaurant's dishes. I explained why WP:NOTPRICE is not violated: "availability information" does not violate the policy when there is "there is an independent source and encyclopedic significance for the mention". I linked to a featured article and multiple good articles about restaurants that discuss their menu in a similar way to this article, showing this is standard practice for restaurant articles.
Although I consider the WP:NOTPRICE concern to be unsupported by policy or practice, I remain open to feedback about specific parts of the article that can be "written more objectively with less 'bigging up'". Cunard (talk) 11:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Adding 'collectively' before 'the reliable sources spend considerable space discussing and critiquing the restaurant's dishes' makes a huge difference to the meaning of your original statement. You explanation of why you think WP:NOTPRICE is not applicable is fundamentally flawed. Firstly, phrases like another crab dish the restaurant serves is crab spring rolls require a huge stretch of the imagination to be thought of as of encyclopedic significance. Secondly, many of the sources used just give the restaurant a passing mention.
- There is no conflict between my two statements. The "Where to eat in Phuket" type articles and the Lonely Planet book provide a few sentences to a paragraph about the restaurant's dishes. Collectively, the reliable sources spend considerable space discussing and critiquing the restaurant's dishes. I explained why WP:NOTPRICE is not violated: "availability information" does not violate the policy when there is "there is an independent source and encyclopedic significance for the mention". I linked to a featured article and multiple good articles about restaurants that discuss their menu in a similar way to this article, showing this is standard practice for restaurant articles.
- I note we have gone from
- For the featured and good articles I linked, there is plenty of coverage about the restaurants' history, decor, and menu, so the menu sections must "form a proportionally smaller part of [those] article[s]". For this article, there is less coverage about the restaurant's history and decor but more coverage about the menu, so the menu must form a proportionally larger part of the article. The decision of how much to cover should be done on a case-by-case basis reliant on how much reliable sources cover each area. The length of this Wikipedia article's menu section does not make it violate Wikipedia:Neutral point of view.
- Two concerns have been raised: (1) the menu section is too long and (2) the article is not written neutrally. I find the premise of (1) to be inaccurate. I welcome feedback about (2).
- The minor edits you have made do nothing to make the article less like an advert or press release. IMHO the article needs a complete rewrite. The first major issue is the in-depth coverage of the menu. A good part of the lead and the largest section of the article is devoted to the menu. If you look at similar restaurant articles, the menu only takes up a paragraph at the most. Secondly, it needs to be written more objectively with less 'bigging up'. For example, Thai starlets in the source becomes Thai celebrities in the article. John B123 (talk) 23:14, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- I revised the article to shorten and have fewer quotes as recommended by Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Impartial tone, which says, "Try not to quote directly from participants engaged in a heated dispute; instead, summarize and present the arguments in an impartial, formal tone." I hope this addresses editors' concerns. As the Wikipedia's article author, I do not have a conflict of interest with the restaurant. Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Due and undue weight says, "Neutrality requires that mainspace articles and pages fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint in those sources". I have complied with this policy by fairly representing reliable sources' viewpoint about the restaurant. Regarding "all positive, of course", I conducted an exhaustive search for reliable sources about the restaurant. I did not find negative coverage of the restaurant in reliable sources. Adding negative information about the restaurant to the article when it is unsupported by reliable sources would violate the neutral point of view and verifiability policies. Cunard (talk) 19:49, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- I agree and have tagged it as such. It's quite funny how the "Reception" section contains less reception (all positive, of course) than has beem inserted indiscriminately throughout the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:35, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'd draw your attention to the SNG for restaurants WP:RESTAURANTREVIEWS. This establishes the types of reviews that are 'significant' and can be included towards notability. Most of the reviews used in the article fail the test to be 'significant'. The SNG goes on to cover independent reviews and states Often, sponsored nature of a review is not disclosed and not immediately apparent. In particular, a strong indication of a sponsored or other relationship is a review that is excessively positive or negative Later it is stated Once notability is established, non-independent reviews may be used to verify some non-controversial facts in the article (e.g. number of employees, number of tables in a restaurant, product models) This suggests to me that reviews needs to be demonstrably independent or just used to verify non-controversial facts. What somebody thinks is a good dish is subjective and therefore potentially controversial. John B123 (talk) 21:04, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- It has the same effect with regard to proportionality of coverage within the article. Regarding WP:NOTPRICE, I've removed the sentence about crab rolls. I consider the sources in the article to be independent reliable sources. Which sources do you consider to be possibly sponsored or "non-independent reviews" that are being used to describe "What somebody thinks is a good dish"? Cunard (talk) 22:03, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Looking at the sources, and in the same order as the refs section:
- Manager Daily - looks like a paid piece, no author given
- Michelin Guide - Sound source
- SMH - Brief mention extracted from Michelin Guide
- Thansettakij - Churnalism based on the Michelin Guide
- Thaiger - Obvious churnalism, the author, Ye Man Pyae, seems to specialise in 'best of' articles ranging from eateries to nursery schools to best best places to teach English in Thailand (teach not learn)
- BK - Short listing, nothing there that's not on One Chun's Facebook which it links to
- Lonely Planet Thailand - Single sentence listing
- Lonely Planet Phuket - 3 sentence listing
- Michelin Guide - Sound source
- Manager Daily - Probably churnalism, no author given
- SMH - single sentence mention
- Nation - 2 sentence listing
- Michelin Guide - Sound source
- Manager Daily - Passing mention (half a sentence)
- Michelin Guide - Sound source
- Lifestyle Asia - Looks independent, information here that doesn't seem to be elsewhere. Probably too short to count towards notability, but still a reliable source IMHO.
- Timeout - Looks independent, but again probably too short to count towards notability
- CNN - Passing mention
- Manager Daily - Passing mention
- Frommers - Passing mention in (paid?) article about sister restaurant Raya
- Manager Daily - 7 sentences in a long article promting the Nissan X-Trail. As this an obvious promotional article, I doubt it would be considered a reliable source.
- Australian - Passing mention
- Khaosod - Passing mention
- Having your specific concerns enumerated is very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to review all the sources. Some of the sources were listed as short or being churnalism for reporting on the Michelin Guide Bib Gourmand designation. I do not consider either of those attributes as causing those sources to be unreliable so will not go into detail on those sources. The reliability of three sources—Manager Daily, Frommer's, and The Thaiger—was questioned, so I will discuss them below.
Manager Daily is a national business newspaper with a circulation of 300,000 in 2016. From my observations and a review of its articles, Manager Daily generally does not use bylines. A lack of bylines is standard for Thai journalism. According to this Routledge book, "Front-page political news stories in Thai language newspapers never carried a by-line; indeed, by-lines were rare for news stories anywhere in the Thai press, other than some weekly magazines. In part this reflected Thai traditions of journalism, but it also derived from the fact that these stories really did not have a single author."
I consider Manager Daily to be a reputable newspaper. From this working paper by Ramkhamhaeng University faculty member Suchart Sriyaranya:
These articles are positive restaurant reviews written by Manager Daily's travel and food team. I do not think Manager Daily would publish sponsored articles without disclosure.Some newspapers pay a high monthly salary or even pay more for one article than their competitors. Many well-known academics write as columnists in Manager Daily on this basis. Manager Daily rose to become the most successful newspaper during an era of economic boom in Thailand. It was started as a weekly business magazine and later developed to be a daily newspaper. Its editorial direction is different from that of Matichon Daily. While Matichon represents mostly progressive readers, Manager Daily has targeted a rising group of younger urban professionals or Yuppies who work in business sectors. As it can offer the good-quality daily articles written by many famous intellectuals, as well as provide the news contents in focussing in the business sectors, Manager has succeeded in combining its globalized image with the contributions of academics and information demands of bussiness groups.
Frommer's is a reputable travel guide publisher. The Frommer's review rated One Chun's sister restaurant two out of three stars. I think a paid article would give three out of three stars, not two.
The Thaiger is a source with a less established history and the concerns about the author, a junior journalist, are valid. I've removed the content based on The Thaiger from the article.
- Having your specific concerns enumerated is very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to review all the sources. Some of the sources were listed as short or being churnalism for reporting on the Michelin Guide Bib Gourmand designation. I do not consider either of those attributes as causing those sources to be unreliable so will not go into detail on those sources. The reliability of three sources—Manager Daily, Frommer's, and The Thaiger—was questioned, so I will discuss them below.
Articles created/expanded on March 4[edit]
Elijah Wood
- ... that Elijah Wood was cast as Frodo Baggins in The Lord of the Rings film trilogy after sending an audition tape of himself dressed as the character and reading lines from the epic novel? Source: Sibley, Brian (2006). "Three-Ring Circus". Peter Jackson: A Film-maker's Journey. London: HarperCollins. pp. 388–444. ISBN 0-00-717558-2.
- Reviewed: nominator is exempt
Improved to Good Article status by Lord Theoden (talk) and Chiswick Chap (talk). Nominated by Lord Theoden (talk) at 21:10, 10 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Elijah Wood; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: I'd be interested in seeing some hook variants. One source for example mentions that at the time this was not common. Which also implies that its potentially become increasingly common. I'd also be interested in seeing some alts about other aspects of Elijah, for example I didn't know that he owns a record company and is a DJ, and there seems to potentially be more. Seddon talk 23:33, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Lord Theoden and Chiswick Chap: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 19:25, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
The Force is with Cristal Beer, Cerveza Cristal
- ... that advertisements for a 2003 marketing campaign for Cerveza Cristal were inserted in a way that they appeared to be continuations of scenes from the Star Wars original trilogy? Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that a 2003 marketing campaign for Cerveza Cristal won the Media Grand Prix at the 2004 Cannes Lions International Festival of Creativity? Source: [2]
- Reviewed: [[]]
- Comment: Unsure about whether or not to put this since it's recently become an internet meme
Created by Sfs90 (talk). Nominated by IntMaMis (talk) at 14:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/The Force is with Cristal Beer; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page. Both articles:
General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems: - The Cerveza Cristal article is fairly short (it's only 66 bytes longer than the bare minimum). Per WP:DYKCOMPLETE, I'd just like the nominators to verify that the article is reasonably complete before approving this. There are no issues with The Force is with Cristal Beer article.
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- Other problems: - ALT0 is good to go. ALT1 is only mentioned in The Force is with Cristal Beer, however.
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Overall: @Sfs90 and IntMaMis: Nice work. I've left a few comments above, but other than that I don't see any other major issues. Epicgenius (talk) 02:11, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have fixed the above comment, which was incorrectly marked as a tick. There are a few issues remaining before this can be approved. Epicgenius (talk) 01:14, 10 March 2024 (UTC
- Be advised that we are in WP:QPQ backlog mode. Double reviews are required.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:46, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Double of nothing is nothing. Sorry for the confusion.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
@Sfs90 and IntMaMis: Please respond to the concerns in the review outlined by Epicgenius. Z1720 (talk) 19:26, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Newbery, Charles (7 July 2004). "OMD Chile's product placement coup". Advertising Age. Archived from the original on 5 March 2024. Retrieved 26 February 2024.
- ^ Barrett, Patrick (23 June 2004). "'Genius' Chilean beer ad scoops media award". The Guardian. Archived from the original on 5 March 2024. Retrieved 4 March 2024.
Articles created/expanded on March 6[edit]
Electoral history of the Labour Party (UK)
- ... that the UK Labour Party received their highest share of the vote to date in a general election in 1951, but still lost to the Conservatives who received fewer votes? Source: Source url=https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7529/CBP-7529.pdf#page=8 From the PDF: "The highest share of the vote received by Labour in a general election was 48.8% in 1951, when the Conservatives won the most seats despite polling fewer votes"
- Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Michaeldble (talk). Self-nominated at 17:21, 6 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Electoral history of the Labour Party (UK); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: No previous DYK noms. Passed GA recently. Copyvio check passes. Quick question though about the hook, "earned fewer votes" doesn't feel like the typical language used. I would have expected the phrase "received fewer votes". Not a dealbreaker in anyway, it just catches me off guard and wanted to flag it. Might be worthwhile sticking an alt here with it and allow the promoter to pick their preferred. Seddon talk 10:07, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Michaeldble: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 19:29, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: @Seddon: Yes, that sounds more natural to me as well, I've just changed it now. Michaeldble (talk) 20:44, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Interstate 65 in Tennessee
... that the first section of Interstate Highway in Tennessee was a section of Interstate 65 opened on November 15, 1958?Source: [1]- Reviewed:
Created by Bneu2013 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:00, 6 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Interstate 65 in Tennessee; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- The hook does not meet the interestingness criterion as it is not likely to be perceived as interesting or unusual to a non-specialist audience. Merely saying that something opened on a particular date is not really hooky. I'd suggest proposing additional hooks instead. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:43, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry I've been slow to respond. I'll try to come up with a suggested change later today. Bneu2013 (talk) 15:08, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Update, Narutolovehinata5, the subject of my proposed hook was the fact that this was the first section of Interstate Highway opened in Tennessee, not the date it opened. I've seen similar hooks like this before. However, I can propose some tweaks. How about "...that the first section of Interstate Highway in Tennessee was a section of Interstate 65 near the Alabama state line?". Or "...that the first section of Interstate Highway in Tennessee was a section of Interstate 65 near the Alabama state line, opened in 1958?". Alternatively I could do "...that Interstate 65 was the first Interstate Highway in Tennessee to open?" However, that could be mistaken as implying that I-65 was the first Interstate Highways in Tennessee to be completed, which is not true. Bneu2013 (talk) 07:07, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry I've been slow to respond. I'll try to come up with a suggested change later today. Bneu2013 (talk) 15:08, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- So I guess something like this then?
- ALT1 ... that a section of Interstate 65 was the first part of the Interstate Highway System to open in Tennessee?
- Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:29, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- So I guess something like this then?
- That's fair. Asking for a new reviewer to give this a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:51, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 is confirmed and in the article. I guess it could be mildly interesting. The article was made a good article on March 6 and nominated the same day so it qualifies. In the credits the nominator said it was created but it should say improved to Good Article. The nominator has 11 nominations but I do not see a QPQ offered here (it was supposed to be done within 7 days per WP:QPQ) so that needs to be done before I can approve. I do not find evidence of plagiarism (Earwig >5%) and the article uses the correct inline citations. The article is neutral. Regarding the image, it has been uploaded by the nominator with a free license tag and I see that it comes from a book which was prepared by D.W. Moulton Commissioner of the Department of Highways and Public Works of the State of Tennessee. It is not the work of a Federal employee so I am unsure about using it on the main page. I do not see a copyright notice on the book so I could be wrong. It is ok for a promotor to look at the license and come to a different conclusion about the image. Bruxton (talk) 17:09, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ "100 Years: Tennessee's Interstate System". tn.gov. Tennessee Department of Transportation. 2014. Retrieved January 29, 2023.
Articles created/expanded on March 8[edit]
Kobe Bufkin
- ... that although he debuted four days after Kobe Brown, Kobe Bufkin (pictured) was likely the second player named Kobe to score in the NBA?
- ALT1: ... that as a sophomore Kobe Bufkin (pictured) was the youngest member of the 2022–23 Michigan Wolverines? Source: https://mgoblue.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/kobe-bufkin/23520
- ALT2: ... that Kobe Bufkin (pictured) has brothers named after Michael Jordan and Isiah Thomas? Source: https://www.mlive.com/wolverines/2020/07/how-michigan-basketball-landed-in-state-star-kobe-bufkin-and-why-he-chose-u-m.html
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Sleeping Beauty and the Beast
- Comment: 1st of 2 QPQs
5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 00:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kobe Bufkin; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page. Because of QPQ backlog mode I also need to submit the 2nd QPQ credit from Template:Did you know nominations/Been Like This.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:16, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Readable prose size expanded from 410 words to now 2045 words (2045/410=4.99... I'm going to defer to someone more senior than me on whether rounding up for this is fine). Copyvio check good. Two QPQs done. ALT0 doesn't have a source linked (I'm guessing it's this source from the article). Don't like ALT0 because it seems so uncertain. ALT1 and ALT2 are fine. Riley1012 (talk) 22:54, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Riley1012, DYK is based on prose characters, not words. The article had 2518 prose characters prior to the expansion beginning on 1 March, and has 12264 prose characters today, both according to DYK check. A 5x expansion required 12590 prose characters, so TonyTheTiger needs to add at least 326 prose characters to reach 5x, which is certainly feasible to accomplish. Once that's done, hopefully in the next seven days, the review can be concluded. (The 5x expansion calculation is one of the few guidelines that isn't rounded.) BlueMoonset (talk) 21:49, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 10[edit]
Andrew Tate
- ... that social media personality Andrew Tate (pictured) was the third most 'googled' person in 2023? Source: [3]
- ALT1: ... that one of the most-liked tweets of all time was Greta Thunberg's response to Andrew Tate (pictured) in December 2022? Source: [4]
ALT2: ... that counter-terror police have expressed concern over influencer Andrew Tate (pictured), due to an increase in cases related to incel culture? Source: [5]- Reviewed:
- Comment: These is about as neutral as I can think of.
Improved to Good Article status by CommunityNotesContributor (talk). Self-nominated at 16:19, 10 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Andrew Tate; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Not a review, but this article might not be DYK material. (Primarily since our coverage is overwhelmingly negative) Sohom (talk) 16:24, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your input. I've striked out ALT2, given it focuses on the negative. The other two hooks, specifically the first, I'd consider as neutral as they come. The coverage in the article is overwhelming negative due to RS, not due to contributors, with a lot of consideration for using NPOV language and attribution as per BLP policy, as well as including everything positive about Tate, or in defense of him. I'd argue this type of article would come under one of the goals of DYK:
highlight the variety of information on Wikipedia, thereby providing an insight into the range of material that Wikipedia covers.
If we are not including controversial topics, then we are not achieving this diversity. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 17:31, 10 March 2024 (UTC)- We do feature negative hooks about certain things (Site isolation had a semi-negative hook, despite having a overwhelmingly positive reception). I'm not insinuating that NPOV was compromised when building the article eithier (in fact the article great considering how freaking controversial the subject is). I'm just unsure if running a negative article about a BLP is the best idea. In any case, I'll defer to a actual reviewer. Sohom (talk) 20:06, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Again, appreciate the feedback. Just to clarify, we're not still talking about negative hooks are we? The hooks are currently neutral, if not positive. If the argument is along the lines of if Jimmy Savile were promoted to GA, and then nominated as a DYK, and that would be an issue, than I have no complaints. Simple as. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 20:59, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Exactly, that's my argument. The hooks look good from a neutrality POV (imo). Sohom (talk) 21:19, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- CommunityNotesContributor: I could do with you if I ever decide to GA Tate's Big Brother housemate Marco Pierre White Jr and try him on again here. I would just like to bring your attention to the bit of WP:DYKHOOK that says "Hooks that unduly focus on negative aspects of living persons should be avoided", emphasis mine. I see no reason why a rightfully negative article should not be promoted with a negative hook; we should not be providing WP:FALSEBALANCE. Out of interest, is there a reason you don't mention his appearance on Ultimate Traveller?--Launchballer 10:29, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- @CommunityNotesContributor: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 02:08, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Probably because there doesn't appear to be a reliable source with coverage, all I could find was one line from Independent (via Yahoo) documenting this [6]. The show itself doesn't appear to be notable, based on the lack of Wikipedia page, though this minor detail could be added to BB section for example. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 13:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- CommunityNotesContributor: I could do with you if I ever decide to GA Tate's Big Brother housemate Marco Pierre White Jr and try him on again here. I would just like to bring your attention to the bit of WP:DYKHOOK that says "Hooks that unduly focus on negative aspects of living persons should be avoided", emphasis mine. I see no reason why a rightfully negative article should not be promoted with a negative hook; we should not be providing WP:FALSEBALANCE. Out of interest, is there a reason you don't mention his appearance on Ultimate Traveller?--Launchballer 10:29, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Exactly, that's my argument. The hooks look good from a neutrality POV (imo). Sohom (talk) 21:19, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Again, appreciate the feedback. Just to clarify, we're not still talking about negative hooks are we? The hooks are currently neutral, if not positive. If the argument is along the lines of if Jimmy Savile were promoted to GA, and then nominated as a DYK, and that would be an issue, than I have no complaints. Simple as. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 20:59, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- We do feature negative hooks about certain things (Site isolation had a semi-negative hook, despite having a overwhelmingly positive reception). I'm not insinuating that NPOV was compromised when building the article eithier (in fact the article great considering how freaking controversial the subject is). I'm just unsure if running a negative article about a BLP is the best idea. In any case, I'll defer to a actual reviewer. Sohom (talk) 20:06, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your input. I've striked out ALT2, given it focuses on the negative. The other two hooks, specifically the first, I'd consider as neutral as they come. The coverage in the article is overwhelming negative due to RS, not due to contributors, with a lot of consideration for using NPOV language and attribution as per BLP policy, as well as including everything positive about Tate, or in defense of him. I'd argue this type of article would come under one of the goals of DYK:
- That's a shame. I saw that the non-RS Rolling Stone mentioned that he flounced out of it with an eye infection, and wondered if there was a hook in it. Full review needed.--Launchballer 13:17, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 11[edit]
Darwin Rocksitters Club
- ... that the Darwin Rocksitters Club had "no funny business" as their first, third, and fifth rule? Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-11/rock-sitting-in-darwin-turns-40/10354878
- ALT1: ... that the Darwin Rocksitters Club sat on rocks a metre underwater in crocodile-infested waters? Source: https://rocksitters.com/
- ALT2: ... that the Darwin Rocksitters Club set a twelve-day rocksitting world record in 1980? Source: https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/catalog/3550861
- Reviewed:
Created by 8UB3RG1N3 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:03, 12 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Darwin Rocksitters Club; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- The article was created on time; however, the article creator was Aliceinthealice and not 8UB3RG1N3, so Aliceinthealice needs a credit as well. No QPQ required as the nominator only has three nominations. The article could probably use some minor copyediting: there are a few grammatical errors here and there, and the sentence "What made this unique was that the rocks they sat on would be a metre underwater at high tide in the crocodile infested waters." might need to be revised as it sound a bit like editorializing. My preferred hooks are the original hook and ALT1 with a slight preference for ALT1 although I will not oppose ALT0 being promoted instead. The issue is that ALT1's source, or at least the link given, doesn't mention the crocodile-infested waters thing. The link will thus need to be changed to the actual page on the website that mentions it. The source is primary, but given the noncontroversial nature it should be acceptable in this case. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:28, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 12[edit]
Forever Young (horse)
- ... that Forever Young (pictured), who won the Saudi Derby, is owned by Susumu Fujita, who is known for a horse racing mobile game called Uma Musume Pretty Derby? Source: https://www.nikkansports.com/keiba/news/202402250000020.html
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Thank you everyone for revising the article. If Forever Young wins the UAE Derby on March 30, 2024, it may be good to change the hook from Saudi Derby to UAE Derby.
Created by NinetyNineDragon (talk). Self-nominated at 16:16, 12 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Forever Young (horse); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Comments: Well done for creating such an article. However, to make this article more presentable as I mentioned in the Talk area of the article that the Japanese references in the article need to be replaced with English. Both JBIS and Netkeiba have English and can readily be used as references.
- The statistics needs to conform to what is used in the English wikipedia space. There are columns with abbreviations which as specific in Japanese form reader but for the US/English make no sense. Also the odds are not displayed as payout coefficients. Margins are in lengths or part of horse's posture (head, neck, nose etc...) Brudder Andrusha (talk) 21:49, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- First of all, thank you very much for revising the article. The quality of the article cannot be decent without your help. Second, may I know whether there are any rules stating that English references are better than those which are not in English? For articles about Japanese stuff, isn't that Japanese references are more accurate and relevant?
- Third, for your comment about the abbreviations in the statistics section, could you provide some good articles for my reference? You may guess that I am not that familiar with horse racing from my contributions (but obviously someone with limited knowledge cannot write this article). NinetyNineDragon (talk) 15:39, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- This is a comment and not a review, but even as someone who's watched Uma Musume, I'm not a fan of the hook. It's more about Fujita or even the game itself than the horse, and the guidelines say that hooks that are only tangentially about the bolded article should be avoided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:00, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- I believe the hook is definitely not tangentially about the article. The information in the hook is completely mentioned in the headline of the source (the Nikkan Sports article) I put above. I guess not everyone here knows Japanese so let me put a rough translations of the headline here: "[Saudi Derby] Uma Musume's Fujita Susumu Got First Overseas Graded Race Victory, Owns Forever Young '[I] won'". If you google Japanese news articles about Forever Young, you will find it is not rare for them to mention Uma Musume at the same time.
- If you think it is not generally interesting enough, is this better to you:
- ALT1: ... that someone wants Forever Young (pictured), the winner of the Saudi Derby, to be turned into a horse girl because he is owned by the CEO of CyberAgent? Source: https://www.inside-games.jp/article/2023/12/13/150914.html
- NinetyNineDragon (talk) 15:39, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- I mean, even the source you provided (or at least the quote) focuses on the owner and not the horse itself. Having said that, ALT1 might be better and address my concerns, but the wording isn't the greatest given how vague the word "someone" is in this context. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:55, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed, including hooks. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:55, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 14[edit]
Descendants of Christian IX of Denmark
- ... that King Christian IX and Queen Louise of Denmark were the parents to a Danish king, a British queen, a Greek king, and a Russian empress? Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that Queen Louise of Denmark was instrumental in advantageously marrying her children with King Christian IX into various European royal families? Source: [1]
- ALT2: ... that King Christian IX and Queen Louise of Denmark would welcome their children and grandchildren across six different European royal houses in the summer? Source: [2]
- ALT3: ... that the popularity of King Christian IX of Denmark recovered in his country after his children married into multiple European royal families? Source: [3]
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is a list, so I am unsure if this DYK is eligible. That being said, here is my "elevator pitch":
The executed Nicholas II of Russia. The queen that never set foot in her country, Alexandra of Yugoslavia. Accomplished Olympian Constantine II of Greece. The last king of the Congo, Baudouin of Belgium. An heir forging his 21st-century path, William, Prince of Wales. What do all of these people have in common (besides being royals)? They can claim descent from the Father-in-law of Europe, Christian IX of Denmark!
If this DYK is approved, readers will be enticed to learn about how the royal families of Europe are biological relatives to a closer extent than some may think! Created by AndrewPeterT (talk). Self-nominated at 03:12, 18 March 2024 (UTC).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.
References
- ^ a b "Queen Louise". Amalienborg Palace. Retrieved March 17, 2024.
- ^ "The History of Denmark 1875-1900". Amalienborg Palace. Retrieved March 17, 2024.
- ^ "Christian IX". Royal Palaces. National Museum of Denmark. Retrieved March 17, 2024.
Articles created/expanded on March 15[edit]
Saint Nicholas church, Nahuievychi
- ... that the prominent Ukrainian poet Ivan Franko was baptized in a burned wooden church in Nahuievychi? Source: https://kamenyar.info/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Sadyba_Franka_Kn_3_2022.pdf
- Reviewed:
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.- I'm not sure if the hook as currently written would be broadly appealing if they aren't familiar with the poet in question. I'd like to see more hooks proposals first. In addition, the article could use a copyedit. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:50, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator hasn't edited since March 31st and did not respond to the above review. While a copyedit was done by Pbritti, the requested additional hooks were not provided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:37, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 17[edit]
Calamophyton
- ... that trees of the extinct genus Calamophyton (example pictured) formed the earliest known forest?
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 20 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Gatoclass (talk) 01:43, 23 March 2024 (UTC).
- @Gatoclass: Over a week later, you still need to do your two QPQs before this can be reviewed. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:02, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you David, but the rule is that QPQs must be done within a week of nomination, not creation, and I only nominated this three days ago. I have been extremely busy over the last few days and am currently in recovery, so will probably take another day or two before adding the QPQs. But please feel free to review the other aspects of the nomination in the meantime if you are so inclined. Gatoclass (talk) 06:17, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- My personal rule is not to review any DYK that is still missing its QPQ, and not to nominate until I have done my own QPQs. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:20, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- David, just for the record, I reviewed more than 40 nominations last month, none of which were QPQs, and could legitimately use any of them for this nomination, but my personal rule is always to offer newly completed QPQs for any nomination I make, not only to help out the project, but also so that the reviewer can be sure I am not using old QPQs that I may have used before. Which is why I almost always nominate before doing the QPQs. Cheers, Gatoclass (talk) 06:45, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- David, I have added the QPQs if you still want to complete this review. Gatoclass (talk) 12:20, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe if it's still around the next time I need QPQs myself (like you, I do them when I need them rather than maintaining a backlog). —David Eppstein (talk) 18:09, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- My personal rule is not to review any DYK that is still missing its QPQ, and not to nominate until I have done my own QPQs. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:20, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you David, but the rule is that QPQs must be done within a week of nomination, not creation, and I only nominated this three days ago. I have been extremely busy over the last few days and am currently in recovery, so will probably take another day or two before adding the QPQs. But please feel free to review the other aspects of the nomination in the meantime if you are so inclined. Gatoclass (talk) 06:17, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- QPQs added, ready for full review. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:09, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Enchylium conglomeratum
- ... that Enchylium conglomeratum's global conservation status of "Secure" (G5) stands in stark contrast to its designation as "Extinct" in the UK and "Regionally Extinct" in Switzerland? Source: NatureServe, British Lichen Society, . Swiss Federal Institute for Forest, Snow and Landscape Research
- ALT1: ... that while lichen species Enchylium conglomeratum is considered "Secure" globally, it has been designated as "Extinct" in the UK and "Regionally Extinct" in Switzerland? Source: NatureServe, British Lichen Society, . Swiss Federal Institute for Forest, Snow and Landscape Research
- ALT2: ... that lichen species Enchylium conglomeratum's global Conservation status of "Secure" (G5) stands in stark contrast to its designation as "Extinct" in the UK and "Regionally Extinct" in Switzerland? Source: NatureServe, British Lichen Society, . Swiss Federal Institute for Forest, Snow and Landscape Research
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Feel free to share your alt hook. Also, I'd like to know your thoughts on a pictured DYK of this.
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.X (talk) 21:35, 19 March 2024 (UTC).
Nandipha Magudumana
- ... that Nandipha Magudumana, a Wits University graduate and celebrity doctor, is imprisoned and investigated 12 crimes including murder connected to a fugitive's prison escape? Source: ref13: Magudumana studied medicine, made Mail & Guardian 200 Young South Africans finalist, and now holds a Bachelor of Health Sciences (BHSc) in Biomedical Sciences and a Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery (MBChB), both from Wits. ref 6 & ref 4: She assisted the convicted criminal to escape from prison. She stole three bodies from morgues in the Free State. Magudumana and Bester plotted to smuggle a body inside Bester's prison cell and set it alight. He faked his death and walked out of the prison disguised in a G4S uniform. ref 8: Magudumana was arrested alongside fugitive boyfriend, Thabo Bester, while heading towards the border of Kenya on April 7, 2023. ref 11: Magudumana is being held in Kroonstad women's correctional centre in Free State.
- Reviewed:
Created by Dxneo (talk). Self-nominated at 04:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC). Note: at the time of this nomination, DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode. All nominations made by editors with 20 or more prior nominations during this time will require two QPQs for every article nominated. Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Nandipha Magudumana; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Hook won't fly on two counts; they must not contain parentheses, and must not be likely to change (she's not going to be there forever).--Launchballer 22:03, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Dxneo: Please respond to the above.--Launchballer 22:45, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry for the wait Launchballer, I removed the parentheses and the deleted image. I might not fully understand what you mean by "must not be likely to change." If you have reviewed the article, you will come to realise that the subject is facing major time in prison and is considered a flight risk, meaning the chances for her to attend court cases from outside the walls or serve time under house arrest are slim to none. Please do ping me for a quick response. dxneo (talk) 23:30, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Dxneo: WP:DYKHOOK says "The hook should include a definite fact that is unlikely to change", and she isn't going to be in prison indefinitely - she will ultimately either die there or be released. (You'll want to address those maintenance tags per WP:DYKTAG; I watchlist this page, so there is no need to ping me.)--Launchballer 23:37, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think the main problem here is {{Recentism}}. What if the hook was written in the form of past tense, like "[x] was arrested for...?" as that can never changed. Pointers on how the hook can be improved? dxneo (talk) 00:41, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: "... that the celebrity doctor Nandipha Magudumana was imprisoned and investigated for twelve crimes including murder connected to a fugitive's prison escape" might work - although I wonder whether this would be acceptable under WP:DYKINT, which says "excessively sensational or gratuitous hooks should be rejected." Is there another angle?--Launchballer 07:36, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think the main problem here is {{Recentism}}. What if the hook was written in the form of past tense, like "[x] was arrested for...?" as that can never changed. Pointers on how the hook can be improved? dxneo (talk) 00:41, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Dxneo: WP:DYKHOOK says "The hook should include a definite fact that is unlikely to change", and she isn't going to be in prison indefinitely - she will ultimately either die there or be released. (You'll want to address those maintenance tags per WP:DYKTAG; I watchlist this page, so there is no need to ping me.)--Launchballer 23:37, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry for the wait Launchballer, I removed the parentheses and the deleted image. I might not fully understand what you mean by "must not be likely to change." If you have reviewed the article, you will come to realise that the subject is facing major time in prison and is considered a flight risk, meaning the chances for her to attend court cases from outside the walls or serve time under house arrest are slim to none. Please do ping me for a quick response. dxneo (talk) 23:30, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Dxneo: Please respond to the above.--Launchballer 22:45, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 18[edit]
Destruction of the Moon
- ... that the destruction of the Moon would require almost 600 billions of the most powerful atomic bomb ever built? Source: https://gizmodo.com/what-would-happen-if-we-blew-up-the-moon-1796725643
- ALT1: ... that the destruction of the Moon could alter the Earth's inclination? Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/03/02/7-ways-earth-would-change-if-our-moon-were-destroyed/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kaneiolouma Complex
- Comment: Open to alternative hooks, of course.
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.- I will review this. TompaDompa (talk) 18:56, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing: - See below.
- Neutral: - See below.
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - See below.
Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - See below.
- Interesting:
- Other problems: - See below.
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Article created on 18 March, and meets the length requirement. All sources are, as far as I can tell, reliable enough for the material they are cited for. Earwig reveals no copyvio and I didn't spot any instances of unacceptably WP:Close paraphrasing. Both hooks are interesting. ALT0 has an extraneous "s" in "billions" and is not properly cited in the article as the article does not mention that the Tsar Bomba was the most powerful nuclear device of all time. ALT1 is properly sourced but I don't think most people know what "inclination" means in this context—"axial tilt" would likely be better. QPQ has been done. Some comments about the content:
- In general, this needs a thorough copyediting for grammar and whatnot.
See MOS:BOLDLINKAVOID.- The WP:Fair use rationale for the image doesn't hold up to scrutiny. A free image of the concept (though not this particular example) of a destroyed Moon could certainly replace this WP:Non-free image.
12*1028
– nonstandard, see MOS:SCIENTIFICNOTATION. Don't use an asterisk for multiplication, and pick either scientific notation or engineering notation—this is neither.a comparable asteroid
– should probably clarify that this means an asteroid of the same size as an individual piece of hypothetical Moon debris (as opposed to the total amount of Moon debris, for instance).substantial atmospheric heating due to friction
– the sources don't say friction, nor should they. See e.g. Meteor air burst#Explanation.oscillate chaotically beyond 45°
– this needs to be rephrased, for a few reasons. Oscillations are always between to values rather than beyond one, for one thing. For another, "chaotically" here is presumably in the mathematical sense but sounds like it means "violently"... except the sentence then goes on to say that it would be fairly slow.beyond 45° on the scale of tens of thousands of years, possibly reaching 85°
– the source that mentions the latter also gives a much longer timeframe.Apart from being practically unfeasible
– it certainly is, but the sources don't say so.Abian claims have no scientific basis - destroying the moon would actually cause natural disasters.
– I don't doubt that the general consensus is that Abian's a crank, but a statement like this really needs stronger sourcing than it currently has. Make sure to make this compliant with WP:YESPOV.The capture of Triton by Neptune possibly destroyed the previous moons of Neptune.
– the impression I get from the cited source is that those moons are believed to have been ejected, not destroyed.- I might mention that Phobos is expected to be destroyed in the future.
- The "In fiction" section lacks proper sourcing. WP:Primary sources are not sufficient here, the content needs to come from secondary or tertiary sources. See e.g. MOS:POPCULT or WP:IPCV. Do sources on the overarching topic—Destruction of the Moon—discuss fictional depictions? If not, this section should be removed per WP:PROPORTION:
An article should not give undue weight to minor aspects of its subject but should strive to treat each aspect with a weight proportional to its treatment in the body of reliable, published material on the subject.
("on the subject" is key here). I took a quick look at the relevant entries in The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Science Fact and Science Fiction: An Encyclopedia, and they don't seem to mention this aspect.- I'll clarify a bit here: I see that you have added sources to the individual entries. Those are however sources on the works of fiction themselves rather than sources on the overarching topic—destruction of the Moon. That's not sufficient. You have also added a general source on the subject of fictional depictions of the destruction of the Moon. That's much more like it, though this particular source is a bit questionable; while Gizmodo is
generally reliable for technology, popular culture, and entertainment
per WP:RSP, this is a listicle and those are typically unsuitable for establishing WP:WEIGHT (or WP:NOTABILITY, for that matter), and furthermore it explicitly says that it wasCompiled with the aid of
TV Tropes, an unreliable source (see WP:RSPTVTROPES).The issue here is that fictional depictions of the destruction of the Moon need to be covered in the article no more extensively than in WP:PROPORTION to the coverage of that aspectin the body of reliable, published material on the subject
. If sources that deal specifically with the overarching topic of this article—destruction of the Moon—only mention fictional depictions briefly or in passing, the article must likewise keep it brief. A plain "The destruction of the Moon has appeared in some works of fiction such as X, Y, and Z." might be all that we can justify based on the balance of the sources. I would also strongly recommend against presenting this in a list format; it in general invites the addition of poorly sourced material, and in this specific case the additional visual prominence really serves to over-emphasize this WP:ASPECT in violation of WP:NPOV. TompaDompa (talk) 09:08, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'll clarify a bit here: I see that you have added sources to the individual entries. Those are however sources on the works of fiction themselves rather than sources on the overarching topic—destruction of the Moon. That's not sufficient. You have also added a general source on the subject of fictional depictions of the destruction of the Moon. That's much more like it, though this particular source is a bit questionable; while Gizmodo is
Ping Cyclopia. TompaDompa (talk) 22:05, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- @TompaDompa Thanks for your detailed review, I'll try to address your comments ASAP! -cyclopiaspeak! 09:39, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
@Cyclopia: Have you addressed the concerns above? Z1720 (talk) 02:18, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 19[edit]
Virdem
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Changeworld1984 (talk) 21:04, 24 March 2024 (UTC).
- I will review this. TompaDompa (talk) 22:36, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough: - No.
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing: - No.
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - No.
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Overall: Article created on 19 March. It does not meet the length requirement (despite some needless repetition that artificially inflates the length), and substantial copyediting is needed for grammar and whatnot. The sources appear to be reliable ones, but they do not verify all the information in the article (and are not cited in all places where they should be); I have added some maintenance tags to this effect. There are no obvious neutrality issues. Earwig reveals no copyvio, but this is a false negative caused by the tool's inability to parse Google Books text—for instance, the article says It was written by Ralf Burger in 1986 as a demonstration program for Chaos Computer Club conference.
while the source says It was written by Ralf Burger as a demonstration program for the Chaos Computer Club conference [...]
, which is obviously way too WP:Close paraphrasing. The hook is properly cited and interesting. This is the nominator's first DYK nomination, so they are QPQ exempt. TompaDompa (talk) 23:11, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
References
Centurion C-RAM
- ... that the Centurion C-RAM (pictured) can fire more than 4500 rounds per minute? Source: https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2021/10/pdf/2110-factsheet-c-ram.pdf
- ALT1: ... that the American Centurion C-RAM (pictured) was developed during the Iraq war to shoot down mortar shells? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20091231120809/http://defense-update.com/newscast/0508/news/news2105_c_ram.htm
- Reviewed: [[]]
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.(Ping me) On hold for merge discussion. Geardona (talk to me?) 04:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC).
Predator: The Secret Scandal of J-Pop
- ... that sexual abuse claims involving Japanese record producer Johnny Kitagawa went widely unreported in Japanese media until the release of the documentary Predator: The Secret Scandal of J-Pop? Source: The New York Times(source)
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 47 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.lullabying (talk) 01:38, 23 March 2024 (UTC).
- Article is new enough and long enough. Hook fact is verified to the cited source and is interesting and of appropriate length. However, there are issues that need addressing. While normally plot summaries do not need citations, this is a documentary about real people and real events of a highly sensitive and controversial nature. While Kitagawa is no longer living, many of his victims are still alive. The events discussed in the summary involve living people. For this reason, even the summary needs to be thoroughly cited to high quality sources to pass the spirit of our WP:BLP guidelines. There are currently not enough inline citations in that section to pass a DYK review. Additionally the hook fact itself is not as strongly or explicitly stated in the current prose of the article as it in the hook. In order to promote this hook, the current text needs to be altered to more closely match the language in the hook fact. Lastly, the use of the word "talents" reads strangely. While it is true that talent managers manage creative people, the plural form of that word when assigned to people has no s. (i.e. "I manage the talent." is correct when referring to people in the plural form and "I manage the talents." is incorrect) Talents with an s is limited to referring to skills. That wording needs to be addressed. I would suggest not using the word talent at all when referring to people he was managing as a group, and instead using the word creatives. Once these issues are addressed please ping me.4meter4 (talk) 03:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for reviewing. I don't think "creatives" is a good word to describe them. The way the Japanese pop industry works is that young people are contracted within a talent company where they learn to sing and dance. The company then arranges their line-up, name, image, and song when they feel they are ready to debut a certain group or individual, in which they are known as idols. A career as an idol is usually seen as a stepping stone for other fields in entertainment, usually as an actor or personality (AKA someone who becomes a panelist/regular on variety shows). Johnny & Associates' acts are either groups/singers, actors, or television personalities. What is a better word used to describe all of this? They are not "creatives" in that most of them don't produce their own works. lullabying (talk) 23:48, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Lullabying Entertainers would be suitable. Or you could just call them clients of Johnny & Associates which is what they were. You'll need to go through and remove all uses of the word "talents". Let me know when the article has been properly sourced.4meter4 (talk) 01:47, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Kully Thiarai
- ... that Kully Thiarai (pictured) directed both a year of culture in Leeds and a national theatre in Wales? Source: "Artistic Director of National Theatre Wales, Kully Thiarai, is to leave her post before the end of the year and take up the job of Creative Director at Leeds 2023 ..." https://web.archive.org/web/20231204091621/https://www.walesartsreview.org/failure-of-wales-the-departure-of-kully-thiarai/
- ALT1: ... that Kully Thiarai (pictured) made the theatre in Doncaster into a living room for the town? Source: "Thiarai had worked with Red Ladder in Leeds, Contact in Manchester and Cast in Doncaster. Doncaster has been one of the most deprived and least culturally engaged places in the country. Her solution? To open Cast up as a “living room” for the entire town, a place where everyone was welcome." https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2017/may/01/tata-nhs-kully-thiarai-national-theatre-wales
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/George E. Mylonas
- Comment: *Second QPQ: Template:Did you know nominations/Aisling (book series)
- The article was initially written as part of a paid project, see WP:GLAM/LEEDS 2023
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 92 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Lajmmoore (talk) 08:00, 21 March 2024 (UTC).
- Review in progress. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 04:57, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Overall: @Lajmmoore: A neatly put together article improving coverage of women of color in the Britain. The most critical guidelines appear to be met. However, I noticed some other issues that I think would be best cleared up before advancing the nomination. While there's several, I think they could be cleared up relatively easily and don't need to impede the nomination much. Most of these matters are about clauses that either need a source or need to be trimmed because they lack a source.
Kully Thiarai FRSA is an artistic and creative director, whose career began in theatre
: I think that comma is a splice and is best off trimmed, as the clause that follows is dependent, not independent.During this time she commission a variety of new
: Some typos: commission should be commissioned, and there seems to be a noun missing after new.Kaahini by Maya Chowdhry
: I suggest either finding a different source or trimming this info; something doesn't sit right with using as a source a URL that takes the reader by surprise by downloading a DOCX.End of Season by Noel Greig, Sleeping Dogs by Philip Osment, and Crush by Rosy Fordham
: The linked source, Greig's interview notes, only verify that End of Season was a show during Thiarai's tenure as artistic director at Red Ladder; I was unable to verify the rest.co-instigated the Asian Theatre School
: I was unable to identify in the provided sources why you use the word "co-instigated"; I didn't see a fellow "co-instigator" indicated. Additionally, would the source titled Dermot's Blog be considered self-published? Wikipedia's rules for biographical information about living people prohibit the use of "self-published sources" unless they are created by the subject themselves (generally this means eschewing the citation of blogs; however, newsblogs produced by journalistic publications are excepted). This Guardian interview seems like it'd be a better source for Thiarai's involvement with the Asian Theatre School.In 1998 she moved work as Artistic Advisor at Contact Theatre in Manchester
: The provided sources verify that Thiarai was an artistic director at Contact Theatre; not an advisor. Additionally, none of the sources verify that she began working at Contact in 1998; the History of Red Ladder only verifies that she left Red Ladder in 1998, and the other sources don't verify when Thiarai started at Contact. Additionally, when a term like artistic director is a relatively common title, does it need to be capitalized?Whilst there she also worked with Noel Greig to create
: Although the Guardian interview verifies that Thiarai was aCo-creat
[or] of Contacting the World, the interview does not verify Greig's involvement, so that element is not verified.She was later Artistic Director of Contact Theatre
: Since available sources don't verify her having a different role at Contact, this sentence can be trimmed once the "advisor"/"director" matter is straightened out.Thiarai was s co-artistic director with Paul
: small typo.She has used the term 'porous' to describe how to integrate communities practices with more traditional forms of theatre
: Not strictly a problem—or at least, not a DYK-level problem—but this sentence seems rather random. Is smack in the middle of the chronology of her career the right place in the article for this comment about her creative philosophy?National Theatre Wales in its inaugural year
: The sources provided at the end of this sentence don't verify that this was specifically National Theatre Wales's inaugural year. Is that necessarily a needed detail anyway?In 2012 she directed Mandala
: The URL currently in the article is dead and unarchived; this link seems to go to the article you want.based in Nottingham
: The source appended to this sentence is labeled in an inadvetently misleading way; Issuu is a host website, not a publisher. This source would be better if identified by the author and publisher (or trimmed if such information to indicate reliability/verifiability is not available).a new £22 million venue
: Not strictly speaking a problem, but why cite CAST's website as a primary source for this when the same information is already in the Independent article, a secondary source? I would suggest moving the clause to appear before the Independent article citation.One of her most noted productions was an adaptation of Kes
: The two play reviews do verify that one of the productions was an adaptation of Kes, but they don't notify that this production was "most noted" above all other of Thiarai's productions. To conclude that would steer into original research.Notable productions during her time there included: We’re Still Here
: This is both odd to list with a colon when the list is only one item long and, like with Kes, not quite verified by the source. "More immediately" seems to be not a measure of importance but proximity. I would suggest rephrasing this just to remove the editorializing and say that We're Still Here was one of the productions. Also, a minor typo: you used a curled apostrophe rather than a straight apostrophe; the Manual of Style guides us to use straight quotation marks and apostrophes for consistency.Thiarai moved to work as Creative Director of LEEDS 2023 in 2020
: The source appears to verify that Thiarai's departure from NTW to work as director of LEEDS 2023 was in 2019, not 2020. Does creative director need to be capitalized when it is a relatively common title? Also, something about the particular link in the source citation did not work, though this link does.critic Gary Raymond wrote
: The citation in this sentence seems oddly placed; wouldn't it go here, at the end of the clause, or further down at the end of the block quotation?an announcement that came days prior to the presentations that UK bidding cities were due to make.
: This portion of the sentence does not seem to be verified in the cited sources. Including this source is confusing because it seems to erroneously put forward a claim precisely opposite what is in the article and is verified by the other sources.Thiarai stated in December 2023 that, through
This seems to be an unwarranted comma.Northern Power List
: Per the source, should this be "Northern Asian Power List"?
While these are numerous, I think most can be resolved either by deleting a sentence, replacing a source(s), or correcting wording, which is why I remain open to the nomination. Once all these are resolved, I'll happily approve the nomination. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 06:24, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hydrangeans, thanks so much for the review, these changes all approve the article. I really appreciate the time you have taken to do this. Lajmmoore (talk) 21:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Lajmmoore: I'm just glad to be helpful. I notice a few matters that seem to have slipped through:
She also co-founded the Asian Theatre School
: The provided sources still don't seem to verify the "co" part; no other human founders are mentioned. Is the Theatre in the Mill being treated as the other "co-founder"? That seems odd, since Theatre in the Mill is an institution, not an individual.In 1998 she moved work at Contact Theatre
: Is this meant to be "moved to work at Contact Theatre"? Or "began a new job at Contact Theatre"? By way of note, I presume good faith that the The Art of the Artistic Director verifies the 1998 aspect of this information.In 2012 she directed Mandala
The Birmingham Live link is still dead. The problem seems to be that you are putting HTTP instead of HTTPS in the URL: the former is dead; the latter still works.- (
Notable productions during her time there included: We're Still Here
: Not a problem, just a note: on a reread, I see the Guardian article explicitly statesIt was NTW's equivalent of the National Theatre of Scotland’s Black Watch, one of those rare shows that people still talk about with awe
, so I think that's verification.)
- Thank you for the revisions so far. Once the above three matters in need of revision (since the last bullet is just a comment and not something needing revision) are resolved, as I've said I'll be happy to approve the nomination. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 21:27, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Lajmmoore: I'm just glad to be helpful. I notice a few matters that seem to have slipped through:
Fesa Evrensev
- ... that the World Pilots' Day is celebrated on 26 April because of Fesa Evrensev's first flight 112 years ago today? Source: "IFALPA – International Federation of Air Line Pilots' Associations", International Civil Aviation Organization
- Reviewed: The Lyricist Wannabe and Gloster P.370
- Comment: Special occasion request for 26 April.
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 22 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.- The article is not a new creation (it was created back in 2022) but rather a 5x expansion; as such I would suggest also giving a DYK credit to the creator. Otherwise, I didn't find any close paraphrasing, the necessary QPQs have been provided, the hook is interesting, and the special occasion request is acceptable per guidelines. The main issue right now is the location of the footnotes; they need to be in the actual sentences about the hook facts, but right now they're found in later sentences. This has to be addressed per the guidelines. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:13, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, I honestly did not understand a word of your final two sentences. What footnote needs to be moved to where? Styyx (talk) 17:12, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- The sentences
In 2000, the Turkish Airline Pilots Association (TALPA) recognized 26 April as the Pilot's Day in honour of the first flight by Evrensev.
andIn 2013, the International Federation of Air Line Pilots' Associations (IFALPA) decided to create a World Pilots' Day, and picked 26 April as the date because it was "a day that saw a prominent figure in aviation history taking to the sky for the first time".
have their footnotes later than they should be per WP:DYKG. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:17, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- The sentences
Articles created/expanded on March 20[edit]
Thoriqul Haq
- ... that after villagers in Lumajang Regency, Indonesia, rejected the construction of a church, regent Thoriqul Haq used municipal land and funds to construct one along with a musalla? Source: [7]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chandelure & Template:Did you know nominations/Pudella carlae
- Comment: -
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 213 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Juxlos (talk) 09:17, 20 March 2024 (UTC).
General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting: - n
- Other problems: - n
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: QPQ satisfied. Page nominated on the same day it was created. I'll AGF for the source's reliability, google translate seems to back this up enough for me to buy it. Spotchecks seem good, earwig is clear (In theory there could be translation copy-vio issues but this is beyond DYK's purview).
- There is a number of issues with the hook. It's not terribly interesting how it's currently worded, and it very clunky in it's approach. Additionally, the article doesn't specify that it was the villagers were the ones who rejected it, just that the village rejected it. This could imply a number of different things.
@Juxlos: - customary ping. 🏵️Etrius ( Us) 03:45, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 21[edit]
G299.2-2.9
- ... that G299.2-2.9 (pictured) was the result of a natural thermonuclear explosion? Source: https://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2011/g299/ https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1086/520105
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is my first nomination :P
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.( ͡°( ͡° ͜ʖ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ʖ ͡°)͡°) (talk) 16:37, 21 March 2024 (UTC).
- Um, that's just cutesy way of saying it was a supernova. Abductive (reasoning) 06:51, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
A couple of issues here. For one, what is "Source:" at the bottom? For another, the lede is far too long compared to the article's body. Generally, the lede should summarize the text in the article below, but in this case, it is the majority of the article. That does not seem difficult to fix, simply splitting it up. Perhaps the statement "and so provides astronomers..." could be sectionized out, leaving the lede as a summary. And while I'm here:
ALT1: .. that G299.2-2.9 (pictured) is one of the oldest known supernova remnants found in the Milky Way?
Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Paul Huff Parkway
- ... that Paul Huff Parkway is named after a U.S. Army soldier who served in World War II and won the Medal of Honor? Source: [1]
- Reviewed:
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Bneu2013 (talk) 07:11, 21 March 2024 (UTC).
- Pending a QPQ, this looks good to go. The hook is sparse but, then again, I clicked on it, so it's gotta be at least a little interesting. ~ Pbritti (talk) 03:06, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
References
Articles created/expanded on March 22[edit]
Jordan Murphy (basketball)
- ... that Jordan Murphy finished second in Big Ten Conference career rebounds to Jerry Lucas? Source: Source: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/recap?gameId=401082409
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/David Raymond
- Comment: QPQs 3 and 4 of 9.
- Please note that as this is my first DYK repeater, I almost overlooked nominating it. This nomination is a few days late.
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 362 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 10:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on March 23[edit]
Furina (Genshin Impact)
- ... that the design of Genshin Impact's Furina incorporates "contradictory elements" to represent her character? Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP_PnRxK-nc
- ALT1: ... that the design of Genshin Impact's Furina has some elements inspired by classical stories and musicals? Source: https://www.chuapp.com/article/289650.html
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase One
- Comment: Slightly concerned on using a primary source for a hook, but the article isn't overly reliant on these sources and it passed GAN lately. I'm unsure, and I'm open to hear any thoughts or other hook ideas for this article.
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.λ NegativeMP1 04:37, 29 March 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article was nominated for DYK within 7 days of Good Article status. Article is more than 1,500 words in prose. No issues with sourcing; Earwig picked up an unlikely copyright violation of 10.7%. QPQ is done; nominator has done less than 20 nominations so a second one is not needed at this time. The first ALT is bit vague about the "contradictory elements", so I prefer ALT1. However, I'm not sure what makes ChuApp a reliable source. If ChuApp can be justified as a reliable source or another can be found in its place, it's good to go. lullabying (talk) 07:50, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- Lullabying I'm presuming ChuApp to be a reliable source due to it's holder, Beijing Yunji Media Information Technology Co., Ltd., owning other reliable sources listed at the Chinese Video Games reliable sources list, as well as the source getting through GAN both here and on zh.wiki. The source was also recommended to me by an experienced zh.wiki editor (and translator) over at List of Genshin Impact characters#English source searching. With this, I assume the source is at least "good enough" to be sourced in a hook and in the article, though you or anyone else are obviously free to disagree with this.
Articles created/expanded on March 24[edit]
Miyuki Ichijo
- ... that before becoming a voice actress, Miyuki Ichijo left the NHK music variety show Stage 101 in protest over its director being removed? Source: 末盛さんが急な異動になったんです。次にいらした林栄作さんともほんの少しの期間お仕事をしましたが、やっぱり若かったんでしょうね、「末盛さんが辞めるなら私も辞めます!」って、何人かでNHKの会長のところに直訴しに行きました。...そうしたら、あっさり降ろされました。/Suemori-san was suddenly transferred. I worked with Eisaku Hayashi, who came next, for a short period of time, but I guess he was young after all, and several of us went to the NHK chairman and said, "If Mr. Suemori quits, I'll quit too!". I went to complain directly. ...and then I was removed easily.
- ALT1: ... that voice actress Miyuki Ichijo was motivated by disappointment over her work on the Japanese-language dub of the American film Oh, God!? Source: オファーが来たんです。「月曜ロードショー」の『オー!ゴッド』です ... でも、私ができなさすぎて、伊達さんがプロデューサーの方にすごく怒られてました。そして伊達さんから「君にはがっかりしたよ」と言われたことで、やっと奮起しました。I got an offer. Oh, God! from "Getsuyō Roadshow" ... But I couldn't do it well, and Date-san got really angry with the producer. When Date-san told me, "I'm disappointed in you," I finally got motivated.
- ALT2: ... that voice actress Miyuki Ichijo also "left a remarkable legacy" of hundreds of nationally-widespread early childhood education recordings? Source: Ichijo left a remarkable legacy as she was also the voice behind over 500 early childhood education-related recordings that were widely used in Japan.
- ALT3: ... that voice actress Miyuki Ichijo was a leader in the Soka Gakkai movement? Source: "紙上セミナー 仏法思想の輝き 信心で磨いた「声」を響かせ". Seikyo Shimbun. 12 April 2022. p. 5.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KIDY and Template:Did you know nominations/Frick Collection
- Comment: While someone else moved this to mainspace, it was because I submitted it myself in AFC, so I'm naming myself there. I don't have access to the offline sources translated from jawiki, so please AGF them.
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 43 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.ミラP@Miraclepine 18:41, 30 March 2024 (UTC).
2024 opening of regular sessions of the National Congress of Argentina
- ... that the 2024 opening of regular sessions of the National Congress of Argentina took place at 21:00, instead of noon? Source: Javier Milei, en la apertura de sesiones 2024: las repercusiones del discurso del presidente
- (ALT1) ... that the 2024 opening of regular sessions of the National Congress of Argentina took place at 21:00, instead of noon?
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 116 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Cambalachero (talk) 15:03, 25 March 2024 (UTC).
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- Other problems: - The link is too long, even if it contains the article title; I recommend splitting it and only bolding "2024 opening of regular sessions" and linking separately to the National Congress of Argentina. An ALT hook that mentions why the opening was held later might also be good to have.
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Overall: Hook is interesting and the article is in good shape. I'll leave it up to the nominator or promoter to change the hooks in the way I suggested, but won't fuss over it. Added clarification tags where needed. SounderBruce 04:51, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
@Cambalachero: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 01:51, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Done Cambalachero (talk) 15:57, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 25[edit]
Zhuan Zhu
- ... that Zhuan Zhu assassinated a king with a dagger he hid inside a cooked fish? Source: several in article; its what he's known for
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/pending
- Comment: Note that IP 2A02:1406:6B:9548:68EE:F8E1:674B:2343 wrote everything; I'm merely nominating it since it seemed like a pretty decent hook.
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 153 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC).
Bäckadräkten
- ... that the Bäckadräkten (pictured) is Sweden's first unisex folk costume? Source: The title of this article about the Bäckadräkten is "Fredy Clue and Ida Björs Make History by Creating Sweden's First Unisex Folk Costume".
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/N661US
- Comment: The owner of this photo has emailed Wikimedia to confirm release of the copyright; as I write this, that email is awaiting processing by Wikimedia.
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Dugan Murphy (talk) 17:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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- Neutral: - The article does not attribute the criticism of the costume, without which it is not possible to assess whether these sentiments are being given due weight. If the critics are important politicians, more weight would be necessary. If they are random Twitter commenters, it might not be necessary to even mention the criticism at all.
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - No text copyright issues detected. As to the images, though, looking at ticket:2024032510008305 (VRT only), there are unresolved licensing issues here.
Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - Headlines are not reliable sources, so the provided source is insufficient, but fortunately the article uses several citations for this, and [8] verifies just fine.
- Interesting:
Image eligibility:
- Freely licensed: - See above
- Used in article:
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Overall: @Dugan Murphy: This is a great article. If this were a GAN I'd only have a few more things to say than I've said above. There's four Xs above, but only one that actually requires action on your part, a pretty straightforward NPOV fix. If the image copyright question isn't resolved by the time you've dealt with NPOV, I will put this on hold pending a VRT decision. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe) 02:24, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Tamzin: Thank you for reviewing this nomination! I have added a few words to the Reception section clarifying who has expressed support and who has expressed opposition. The image copyright thing is still being reviewed, so unless there's someone else holding up this nomination, then we can put it on hold until VRT makes a decision. What do you think? Dugan Murphy (talk) 12:05, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think the additional details resolve the NPOV issue. The VRT ticket is awaiting clarification from Mx. Clue as of March 26, so if you're in touch with them you might want to give them a nudge. On hold for now. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe) 15:30, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Enchylium limosum
- ... that Enchylium limosum (pictured) is considered a pioneer species, commonly colonizing bare, calcareous soils in habitats disrupted by human activity, such as quarries and spoil heaps? Source: 1 2 3
- ALT1: ... that Enchylium limosum (pictured) has had a taxonomic journey spanning centuries, undergoing numerous name changes before finally receiving its current accepted name in 2013? Source: 1 2 3
- ALT2: ... that Enchylium limosum (pictured) loves lime? Source: [1] [2] [3]
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Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.X (talk) 21:51, 25 March 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review this. Article length and eligibility checks out, and is generally quite presentable. I see no evidence of copyvio. Out of all of these, I think ALT2 is the best; but I don't really see evidence that it "loves lime" beyond its name, and the article is a bit vague about what the "loving" portion of "lime-loving" means. Unfortunately, I think the other two hooks are lengthy and not very interesting to a non-specialist audience. Can you find any sources about why it's a lime-loving lichen? Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:41, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
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- @Generalissima, Hey thanks for reviewing the article. The term "lime-loving" in the common name "Lime-loving Tarpaper Lichen" refers to the preference of Enchylium limosum for habitats with alkaline or calcareous substrates. Limestone, which contains calcium carbonate, is commonly referred to as "lime," hence the name. Lichens like Enchylium limosum thrive in environments where calcium-rich minerals are present, such as limestone or dolomitic rocks. This particular fact is mentioned throughout the sources that are used in the article. Common names given to species are pretty much self-explanatory in most cases, including this one. These sources, although not particularly about the article's subject, will give an idea of why such species of the genera are called "lime-loving." 1, [2].Sources that mention Enchylium limosum's calcareious habitat and common name are abundant and used throughout the article hence I felt it's redundant to mention them here.I hope I was able to provide some ideas. Let me know if you have other questions/suggestions. Regards.Edit: If you feel necessary, I can try to add more information explaining/shedding some background behind its common name in the etymology/taxonomy section. X (talk) 08:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
COSMOS field
- ... that the COSMOS field (pictured) is the largest contiguous survey of the universe ever taken by the Hubble Space Telescope? Source: https://esahubble.org/images/heic0701g/
- ALT1: ... that the COSMOS field (pictured) was the result of a collaboration between over 70 astronomers worldwide? Source: https://esahubble.org/images/heic0701g/
- ALT2: ... that the COSMOS field (pictured) image contains over 2 million galaxies? Source: https://hubblesite.org/contents/media/images/2007/01/2025-Image.html
- ALT3: ... that the COSMOS field (pictured) contains over 200,000 identified galaxies? Source: https://irsa.ipac.caltech.edu/data/COSMOS/overview.html
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- Comment: I've changed the sources and hooks around a bit due to some miswording on my part.
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page. ᵀʰᵃᵗ ᵒⁿᵉ ᵈᵘᵈᵉ ʷʰᵒ ᵐᵃᵈᵉ ᵃˡˡ ᵗʰᵉ ˢᵖᵃᶜᵉ ᵃʳᵗᶦᶜˡᵉˢ (talk) 16:06, 25 March 2024 (UTC).
- Comment: I'm not sure if this is the right way to add a comment, but the information given above is largely incorrect. The COSMOS field is not one of the deepest images ever taken of the universe and it is definitely not the deepest Hubble image ever taken either. It is also not really accurate to say that it's one of the largest surveys of the universe ever. The esahubble.org page cited as the source doesn't make these claims either. It is one of the largest (maybe the largest?) contiguous fields ever mapped with Hubble, but that is different from the statements made here. Aldebarium (talk) 23:13, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I mixed up the sources. [[9]https://esahubble.org/images/heic0701g/#:~:text=COSMOS%20%2D%20the%20Cosmic%20Evolution%20Survey,international%20team%20of%2070%20astronomers.%7Cthis]] source is the right one for the "Biggest survey" claim (which isn't a claim, it's a fact stated by Hubble/ESO) and is one of the largest surveys of the universe ever conducted (stated by HubbleSite among others, if you want links use my talk page, as I'm not too good with links). The 2 million+ galaxies statement has been said by multiple credible sources, including Caltech. ᵀʰᵃᵗ ᵒⁿᵉ ᵈᵘᵈᵉ ʷʰᵒ ᵐᵃᵈᵉ ᵃˡˡ ᵗʰᵉ ˢᵖᵃᶜᵉ ᵃʳᵗᶦᶜˡᵉˢ (talk) 13:48, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Still, most of the items listed above are incorrect. It is definitely not correct to state that this is one of the deepest images ever taken (either by Hubble, or more generally). There are many Hubble images that go deeper than this one. It is the largest contiguous survey field ever observed by Hubble, but that’s different from stating that it was one of the largest surveys of the universe ever. Partly this depends on what you mean by “largest”: if referring to angular area covered, other surveys like SDSS are vastly larger. Aldebarium (talk) 15:03, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Relooking at some if the sources, you are actually right, it is the largest contiguous survey, however, so I'll just reword the Hooks ᵀʰᵃᵗ ᵒⁿᵉ ᵈᵘᵈᵉ ʷʰᵒ ᵐᵃᵈᵉ ᵃˡˡ ᵗʰᵉ ˢᵖᵃᶜᵉ ᵃʳᵗᶦᶜˡᵉˢ (talk) 15:10, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. But again, it’s important to clarify this was the largest contiguous area observed *by Hubble* for a distant galaxy survey. It is not even close to being one of the largest contiguous survey fields ever: many other surveys (such as SDSS) have covered vastly larger survey areas. The area of the COSMOS field is 2 square degrees, while the original SDSS covered something like 10,000 square degrees. Aldebarium (talk) 15:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks for the help. Everything should be good now. Again, thanks! :) ᵀʰᵃᵗ ᵒⁿᵉ ᵈᵘᵈᵉ ʷʰᵒ ᵐᵃᵈᵉ ᵃˡˡ ᵗʰᵉ ˢᵖᵃᶜᵉ ᵃʳᵗᶦᶜˡᵉˢ (talk) 15:55, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. But again, it’s important to clarify this was the largest contiguous area observed *by Hubble* for a distant galaxy survey. It is not even close to being one of the largest contiguous survey fields ever: many other surveys (such as SDSS) have covered vastly larger survey areas. The area of the COSMOS field is 2 square degrees, while the original SDSS covered something like 10,000 square degrees. Aldebarium (talk) 15:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Relooking at some if the sources, you are actually right, it is the largest contiguous survey, however, so I'll just reword the Hooks ᵀʰᵃᵗ ᵒⁿᵉ ᵈᵘᵈᵉ ʷʰᵒ ᵐᵃᵈᵉ ᵃˡˡ ᵗʰᵉ ˢᵖᵃᶜᵉ ᵃʳᵗᶦᶜˡᵉˢ (talk) 15:10, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Still, most of the items listed above are incorrect. It is definitely not correct to state that this is one of the deepest images ever taken (either by Hubble, or more generally). There are many Hubble images that go deeper than this one. It is the largest contiguous survey field ever observed by Hubble, but that’s different from stating that it was one of the largest surveys of the universe ever. Partly this depends on what you mean by “largest”: if referring to angular area covered, other surveys like SDSS are vastly larger. Aldebarium (talk) 15:03, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 26[edit]
Histamine N-methyltransferase
- ... that histamine N-methyltransferase (HNMT) enzyme regulates essential brain functions and sleep-wake cycles in humans? Source: By degrading and regulating levels of intracellular histamine specifically within the CNS, HNMT ensures the proper functioning of neural pathways related to arousal, sleep-wake cycles, and other essential brain functions.
- ALT1: ... that histamine N-methyltransferase (HNMT) is the only enzyme in the human body responsible for metabolizing histamine within the central nervous system, playing a crucial role in brain function? Source: By degrading and regulating levels of intracellular histamine specifically within the CNS, HNMT ensures the proper functioning of neural pathways related to arousal, sleep-wake cycles, and other essential brain functions.
ALT2: ... that histamine N-methyltransferase (HNMT) is the only enzyme in the human body that ensures proper functioning of neural pathways related to arousal, sleep-wake cycles, and other essential brain functions by degrading histamine inside the neurons, that is the cells specifically within the central nervous system? Source: By degrading and regulating levels of intracellular histamine specifically within the CNS, HNMT ensures the proper functioning of neural pathways related to arousal, sleep-wake cycles, and other essential brain functions.- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is my very first DYK nomination. User:Sammi Brie: since you are the DYK expert, if you have suggestions, or you noticed that I did something wrong, please help.
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Maxim Masiutin (talk) 21:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC).
- I struck ALT2 as it is too long (318 characters). ALT1 is 198, near the limit of 200. By the way, Maxim Masiutin, the source you should link to in a DYK nomination is the cited reference in the article for the hook fact. I can't review since I handled the GA nomination, but I wanted to flag those two things. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:38, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
Charles Holland (singer)
- ... that Laurie Anderson was inspired to write her song O Superman after listening to Charles Holland (pictured) sing Massenet's aria O Souverain? Source: https://articles.latimes.com/1987-11-12/news/mn-20094_1_charles-holland
- Reviewed:
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.—capmo (talk) 05:51, 28 March 2024 (UTC).
To See the Next Part of the Dream
- ... that the vocals of To See the Next Part of the Dream were recorded on a Samsung Galaxy S5? Source: https://www.stereogum.com/2245469/tiktok-has-made-shoegaze-bigger-than-ever/columns/sounding-board/
ALT1a: ... that Parannoul thinks his album To See the Next Part of the Dream is overrated?ALT1b: ... that despite To See the Next Part of the Dream being considered one of the best albums of 2021, its creator found it overrated?ALT2: ... that Longinus Recordings was founded because of To See the Next Part of the Dream?- ALT3: ... that Parannoul felt burdened by the popularity of his album To See the Next Part of the Dream? Source: https://newsis.com/view/?id=NISX20210422_0001415550&cID=10601&pID=10600
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/WTXF-TV
- Comment: Hopefully the interviews are fine to cite.
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Skyshiftertalk 19:53, 26 March 2024 (UTC).
- Comment (not a review) per WP:RATEYOURMUSIC, that site is considered unreliable and has been formally deprecated; it should probably be removed from the article Skyshifter. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:04, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: I am aware, but I believe this is an exception; this is not the Rate Your Music database being used, but rather an interview with the artist (as part of their Sonemic Interview series, which has been recurrent), and I am strictly using the artists' own words. WP:ABOUTSELF should apply. Skyshiftertalk 22:25, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Songfacts does seem to have cleaned up its act a bit since I last used it, but perhaps it might be worth posting at WP:RSN to be sure. Certainly ALT1a and ALT1b won't fly as they could change (opinions can go up as well as down), and ALT2 and ALT3 should not contain parentheses.--Launchballer 08:01, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- I can post, however this seems like a standard case of WP:ABOUTSELF, which applies to any source. Skyshiftertalk 12:12, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Songfacts does seem to have cleaned up its act a bit since I last used it, but perhaps it might be worth posting at WP:RSN to be sure. Certainly ALT1a and ALT1b won't fly as they could change (opinions can go up as well as down), and ALT2 and ALT3 should not contain parentheses.--Launchballer 08:01, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: I am aware, but I believe this is an exception; this is not the Rate Your Music database being used, but rather an interview with the artist (as part of their Sonemic Interview series, which has been recurrent), and I am strictly using the artists' own words. WP:ABOUTSELF should apply. Skyshiftertalk 22:25, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- It's probably fine, but I think you should ask anyway, belt and braces and all that.--Launchballer 22:28, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Considering ALT0 is also supported by Stereogum and ALT1a and ALT1b weren't good to go anyways, I've dropped ALT1a, ALT1b and also ALT2. Skyshiftertalk 18:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- It's probably fine, but I think you should ask anyway, belt and braces and all that.--Launchballer 22:28, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 27[edit]
Senate Avenue YMCA
- ... that the Senate Avenue YMCA in Indianapolis had the largest African American membership in the United States? Source: https://indyencyclopedia.org/senate-avenue-ymca/
- ALT1: ... that the Senate Avenue YMCA in Indianapolis hosted notable speakers including W.E.B. Du Bois, Jackie Robinson, and Eleanor Roosevelt? Source: https://www.in.gov/history/state-historical-markers/find-a-marker/find-historical-markers-by-county/indiana-historical-markers-by-county/senate-avenue-ymca/
- ALT2: ... that the Indianapolis African American community in 1911 raised $100,000 in just ten days to establish the Senate Avenue YMCA? Source: https://indyencyclopedia.org/senate-avenue-ymca/
- Reviewed:
- Comment: looking for an image
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.MicElise (talk) 20:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on March 28[edit]
Clint Sargent
- ... that Clint Sargent succeeded Scott Nagy as head coach of the Wright State Raiders years after he had played for him with the South Dakota State Jackrabbits? Source: WHIO.com ("Clint Sargent has been named Wright State University men’s basketball head coach, replacing Scott Nagy ... Sargent, a standout player at South Dakota State, remains in the top 10 in total points scored, three-pointers made, total starts and minutes played under former Wright State head coach Nagy.")
- Reviewed: pending
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 155 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:33, 4 April 2024 (UTC).
West Georgia Wolves football
- ... that the West Georgia Wolves football team won 13 games in 13 years before folding, but upon returning two decades later, compiled consecutive undefeated regular seasons and became national champions? Source: 13 games (note that the source says 14 years, but that is a mistake - the team played from 1946 through 1958 - 13 years) - multiple sources, e.g. [10] / [11], for the consecutive undefeated regular seasons and national championship
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 154 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:29, 4 April 2024 (UTC).
The Cutting Edge: The Magic of Movie Editing
- ... that the filmmakers of the 2004 documentary The Cutting Edge: The Magic of Movie Editing secured the rights to nearly 300 movie clips for free by Warner Bros.? Source: https://cinemontage.org/the-cutting-edge/
- ALT1: ... that Wendy Apple, the director of The Cutting Edge: The Magic of Movie Editing, recorded over 100 hours of interviews and sent the transcripts to the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences? Source: https://cinemontage.org/the-cutting-edge/
- ALT2: ... that the 2-disc release of the 1968 film Bullitt contains a feature-length documentary film, The Cutting Edge: The Magic of Movie Editing? Source: https://theasc.com/magazine/oct05/dvd/page2.html
- ALT3: ... that the 2004 documentary The Cutting Edge: The Magic of Movie Editing contains interviews from 30 film editors and 17 directors? Source: https://variety.com/2004/film/reviews/the-cutting-edge-the-magic-of-movie-editing-1200530187/
- ALT4: ... that Japanese company NHK funded the documentary film The Cutting Edge: The Magic of Movie Editing because it was shot in high-definition? Source: https://cinemontage.org/the-cutting-edge/
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I found so many useful facts about this under-appreciated documentary, especially its pre-production. The only interview that I found that went into extreme detail was an article from CineMontage with executive producer and film editor Alan Heim. It was a stub article, and now I reassessed it as a C-article. I also ensured that the article follows the 5x expanded rule.
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 03:37, 30 March 2024 (UTC).
Sans (Undertale)
- ... that Sans was crowned as "Ultimate Tumblr Sexyman" on the same day that Elizabeth II died? Source: https://www.polygon.com/23344824/reigen-arataka-toby-fox-fan-fic-undertale-sans-tumblr-sexyman
- ALT1: ... that Sans barely won a tournament for the title of Ultimate Tumblr sexyman? Source: https://kotaku.com/undertale-sans-toby-fox-mob-psycho-100-reigen-arataka-1849512678 https://www.polygon.com/23344824/reigen-arataka-toby-fox-fan-fic-undertale-sans-tumblr-sexyman
- ALT2: ... that Sans' boss theme, Megalovania, was played at the Vatican as part of a papal audience circus act for Pope Francis? Source: https://www.polygon.com/22870441/pope-undertale-toby-fox-megalovania https://kotaku.com/the-pope-listened-to-undertales-megalovania-in-the-year-1848314246
Improved to Good Article status by Greenish Pickle! (talk) and GoatLordServant (talk). Self-nominated at 23:03, 28 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sans (Undertale); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
- Article is long enough, promoted to GA within the window, and generally in excellent shape. Hooks check out and are sourced; I like the incongruity of ALT0. Pace the GA reviewer, there is a minor problem with the FUR on File:Undertale Art Book sans progession.png: the FUR includes as a key term
The use of a low resolution screenshot from software or a website will not impact the commercial viability of the software or site.
, but this image is a scan from a book, not a screenshot. The FUR therefore needs to be updated to take into account the true source of the image and the commercial opportunities, if any, exploited or exploitable by the copyright holder. UndercoverClassicist T·C 16:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC)- Already changed by someone. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 22:48, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
William O. Raymond
- ... that historian William O. Raymond's 1905 writing Glimpses of the Past: History of the River St. John recorded the first known Black man in what is now New Brunswick? Source: Spray, W. A (1972). The Blacks in New Brunswick (PDF). Brunswick Press. p. 13. , Raymond, W. O. (William Odber) (1905). Glimpses of the past. History of the river St. John, A.D. 1604-1784. St. John, N.B. p. 52. Retrieved 27 March 2024.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: For context, Raymond's Glimpses of the Past: History of the River St. John mentions a Black man, previously having been taken by the French, being taken to Boston by Benjamin Church during the 1696 Siege of Fort Nashwaak. Raymond described the man as being "probably the first of his race to set foot within the borders of New Brunswick," which has been accepted & referenced in W. A. Spray's 1972 book documenting black history in the province as well as articles such as this one: https://backyardhistory.ca/articles/f/the-battle-of-fort-nashwaak?blogcategory=1600s+and+Before
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.B3251 (talk) 21:49, 28 March 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: The article's creation date and length are ok. No plagiarism has been detected, AGF assumed on sources behind a paywall. The hook is cited and interesting. No picture in the hook, no QPQ required. I have only two remarks: about the hook, you have to add "probably" to the sentence, since the author was not sure whether he was the first black in the region. Moreover, could you please add the denomination of the church to whom he belonged? Thanks! Alex2006 (talk) 10:07, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Ghost Voices
- ... that "Ghost Voices" restored DJ Calvin Harris' love for dance music? Source: https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/calvin-harris-interview-8099225/
- ALT1: ... that Porter Robinson discovered his song "Ghost Voices" was nominated for a Grammy through Twitter? Source: https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/porter-robinson-virtual-self-grammy-nomination-interview-8492911/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Savungaz Valincinan
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Skyshiftertalk 18:48, 28 March 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article was nominated within 7 days of reaching Good Article status. It's more than 1500 words in prose and properly cited. Earwig picked up an unlikely violation of 16%. I would go with ALT1 as I feel it is more interesting. QPQ is required before passing this. lullabying (talk) 07:48, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Lullabying: Added! Skyshiftertalk 15:14, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 29[edit]
Jex Blackmore
- ... that Jex Blackmore is a pro-choice Satanist who did performance art with 100 lbs. of rotten fruit (pictured) before their second abortion? Source: https://msmagazine.com/2022/02/01/jex-blackmore-abortion-pill-live-tv-fox-news-medication-abortion/
- ALT1: ... that Jex Blackmore surprised a Fox TV host in Detroit by taking a mail order pill to start their third abortion on live television? Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/01/26/jex-blackmore-tv-abortion-pill/
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Use the same image for the ALT1 work? An alternative hook could feature her Satanist work, such as organizing the "largest public satanic ceremony in history" and a "Snaketivity" display at the Michigan Capitol.
Article images obtained from Blackmore, who has submitted the permission release.
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.ProfGray (talk) 02:41, 5 April 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, and I do my QPQs first so would not get to this any time soon (but would not object to anybody else jumping in in the interim); refs 5, 8, 19, and 26 have errors, and I'd want to see a very good reason why WP:IMDB is being used on a BLP. I also recommend explicitly citing their pronouns with a source that specifically says "uses they/them pronouns" or somesuch, like I've done at Charlie Deakin Davies. (A good article would state exactly when they began using them if available, but that's probably going beyond the DYK criteria.)--Launchballer 08:52, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- I corrected the 4 refs, replaced IMDb with The New Republic, and created a note about pronouns. The note links to two Internet Archive captures, which is the best source I know about. It was helpful to see your note example. Thanks for your help and please let me know of any other changes that would improve the article. ProfGray (talk) 13:41, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- (Any excuse to plug one of my favourite musicians.) I should have said WP:JEZEBEL shouldn't have been in there either, but as everything was already in Cosmopolitan I took it out myself. WP:EL says external links "normally should not be placed in the body of an article", but as this is a note and the alternatives would be either violating WP:REFPUNCT or WP:SEAOFBLUE I'm IARing it. I also propose the following ALT, which I may come back to, as a rewording of ALT0:
- ALT0.5: ... that the pro-choice Satanist Jex Blackmore did performance art with 100 pounds (45 kg) of rotten fruit (pictured) before their second abortion?
- Full review needed. (And I strongly recommend that any subsequent promoter puts this in the image slot.)--Launchballer 15:43, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- I corrected the 4 refs, replaced IMDb with The New Republic, and created a note about pronouns. The note links to two Internet Archive captures, which is the best source I know about. It was helpful to see your note example. Thanks for your help and please let me know of any other changes that would improve the article. ProfGray (talk) 13:41, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Karl Schädler
- ... that in 1848 Karl Schädler preformed the first chloroform anaesthesia surgery in Liechtenstein? Source: https://historisches-lexikon.li/Schädler,_Karl_(1804–1872)
- ALT1: ... that due to the rise of pan-Germanism, Karl Schädler considered that Liechtenstein should be annexed into Austria? Source: https://historisches-lexikon.li/Schädler,_Karl_(1804–1872)
- ALT2: ... that Karl Schädler completed most of the work on creating a Liechtenstein constitution, despite having no legal training? Source: https://historisches-lexikon.li/Schädler,_Karl_(1804–1872)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gerboise Verte
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.TheBritinator (talk) 02:06, 1 April 2024 (UTC).
- Long enough and nice GA. All paragraphs are referenced. Interesting hook and it is referenced. There's no copyvio or close paraphrasing. You need to provide a QPQ for this hook to be accepted. --2x2leax (talk) 06:01, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- I will complete one soon. TheBritinator (talk) 15:30, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @2x2leax, QPQ is now linked. Please check again when you can. TheBritinator (talk) 18:10, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Vostok 2022
- ... that Vostok 2022 from September that year marked the largest participation of Chinese forces in a Russian military exercise to date? Source: https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/china-and-india-vostok-09012022070355.html (and two other sources)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ukrainian Sheriffs
- Comment: Second QPQ review: Template:Did you know nominations/Tarbula
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 502 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:43, 29 March 2024 (UTC).
- Article is long enough, new enough, neutral, without copyvio, and QPQ is done. However, I have concerns about the wording of the hook. The source does not exactly say what is said in the hook; the closest statement being that "this is the first time the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) has sent all three of its forces, the infantry, navy and air force, to participate in a single exercise with Russia." The hook seems to imply that more troops were sent than ever before, which is not clearly stated. Anonymous 16:18, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- @An anonymous username, not my real name: Fair point, see ALT1 below. Btw, can I suggest best practice of WP:ECHOing or leaving talk page notificaiton when replying at DYK noms? My watchlist is swamped by entries an dI missed your msg. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:23, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Vostok 2022 from September that year marked the most comprehensive participation of Chinese forces in a Russian military exercise to date?
Komeng
- ... that Indonesian comedian Komeng (election portrait pictured) received the most votes of any senatorial candidate to date in the 2024 election? Source: [12]: "perolehan suara Alfiansyah Komeng menjadi rekor baru suara caleg DPD di Indonesia" - Alfiansyah Komeng's vote count was a new record for senatorial candidates in Indonesia
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/TBD (x2)
- Comment: -
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 215 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Juxlos (talk) 09:22, 29 March 2024 (UTC).
- Hook is interesting and inline-cited to Kompas, which is RS. I don't read Indonesian, though, so AGF. (Though, I'd actually like to learn Indonesian as I heard the lack of conjugation makes it more logical to pick-up quickly. Juxos - are you a native speaker or did you learn it?) Article was moved to mainspace on March 28, so is new enough. It's long enough. The image is tagged public domain. Earwig returns 1% (violation unlikely). Article is NPOV. A great article and good contribution to WP - will make an interesting DYK! Once the QPQs are done this should be ready. (Juxos, ping me and I can change the tick.) Chetsford (talk) 18:23, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- I just have to say: that might be the best campaign portrait I have ever seen! :) BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:55, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Yudas Sabaggalet
- ... that Yudas Sabaggalet, an Indonesian politician, worked in a Coca-Cola factory during his study? Source: https://padang.tribunnews.com/2023/05/15/profil-yudas-sabaggalet-anggota-dprd-pertama-dan-bupati-2-periode-kepulauan-mentawai
- ALT1: ... that Yudas Sabaggalet proposed to use Indonesian Army personnel to work on a road construction in his region due to budget constraint? Source: https://sumbar.antaranews.com/berita/224861/tni-akan-dilibatkan-dalam-pembangunan-trans-mentawai
- Reviewed:
- Comment: New article. CE will be appreciated. QPQ later. Any ALTs are welcome.
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 26 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Nyanardsan (talk) 07:59, 29 March 2024 (UTC).
- @Nyanardsan: There are some grammatical issues with the article that I will get around to helping with CE's shortly. Sources are good enough (I hate Tribun, but no choice here), and copyvio very unlikely due to lack of any English sources. Original hook is more interesting than ALT1, I'd say, since using the army for construction is a fairly normal thing to do in Indonesia (and in many countries). Pending QPQ, anyway, so ping me when they're done. Juxlos (talk) 09:28, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Superphosphate
- ... that John Bennet Lawes started producing superphosphate from fossilised dinosaur dung on an industrial scale, which was the first chemical manure produced in the world? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20170202234707/http://archive.pdmhs.com/PDFs/ScannedBulletinArticles/Bulletin%2014-5%20-%20The%20Origins%20and%20Development%20of%20the%20British%20.pdf
- Reviewed:
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Velella Velella Talk 00:33, 29 March 2024 (UTC).
- As written, this article is both a) 491 characters off the required minimum, and b) deserving of {{pro and con list}}. Please make that section prose.--Launchballer 13:21, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Now expanded by c 1k characters and pros and cons deleted or integrated and/ or deleted. Additional refs also included. Regards Velella Velella Talk 16:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Current nominations[edit]
Articles created/expanded on March 30[edit]
Rainforest (EP)
- ... that Clams Casino almost lost his Rainforest EP to a power outage? Source: losing Rainforest: https://dmy.co/features/clams-casino-interview-sony-acid power outage: https://www.mtv.com/news/1fbxfa/interview-clams-casino
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Skyshiftertalk 15:36, 31 March 2024 (UTC).
Young Dirty Bastard
- ... that there is a father to Young Dirty Bastard's style? Source: Hunte, Justin (2013-10-18). "YDB Says Ol' Dirty Bastard's Spirit Jumped Into Him When He Passed". HipHopDX. Retrieved 2024-03-30.
- ALT1: ... that Young Dirty Bastard rapped despite Ol' Dirty Bastard telling him not to? Source: https://creativeloafing.com/content-232625-20-people-to-watch---boy-jones-aka-young-dirty-bastard-the
- ALT2: ... that Young Dirty Bastard replaced Ol' Dirty Bastard? Source: https://www.vice.com/ro/article/neaeqb/adevarata-poveste-a-trupei-wu-tang-clan
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Yurie_Funato
- Comment: The original hook is a play on his father's tagline (just a way of saying his style is influenced by his father, Ol' Dirty Bastard). Would really appreciate a quick turnaround time and to feature this on April 9 if possible 🙏
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Bremps... 23:39, 30 March 2024 (UTC).
First Shift (film)
- ... that Uwe Boll said his upcoming crime drama film First Shift would be a manifestation of his "kinder, gentler side" as a director, in that it is no more violent than his previous films? Source: ""Unlike many of the films in his oeuvre, from Seed (2006) and Postal (2007) to the Rampage trilogy — movies that indulged in extreme, graphic onscreen bloodshed — First Shift, Boll says, will show his kinder, gentler side". (...) "but it's a lot less violent than my other films." - The Hollywood Reporter
- ALT1: ... that after serving brief stints as a restaurateur and documentarian, German director Uwe Boll decided to formally return to filmmaking with the upcoming crime drama film First Shift? Source: "Uwe Boll, it seems, is back. The notorious German director of Rampage, Postal and Far Cry has wrapped production on his new film, First Shift, (...) After a short break from filmmaking — during which time he opened and operated Bauhaus, a high-end German restaurant in Vancouver, now shuttered — Boll says he’s back for good." - THR Source: "Although he made the small German direct-to-video production “Hanau,” based the real-life 2019 terror attack, in 2021, Boll says "First Shift" marks his first "real movie" since returning to filmmaking." - Variety
- Reviewed: [[]]
- Comment: Exempted from QPQ. Open to hook suggestions.
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 17:17, 30 March 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on March 31[edit]
Chesterfield Market
- ... that the Chesterfield Market in the Derbyshire town of Chesterfield dates back to 1165? Source: https://www.chesterfield.gov.uk/explore-chesterfield/markets-and-market-hall.aspx#:~:text=Chesterfield%20Market%20is%20one%20of,and%20events%20all%20year%20round.
- Reviewed:
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Thief-River-Faller (talk) 20:36, 31 March 2024 (UTC).
- Assuming it checks out, ALT1: ... that Chesterfield Market in Derbyshire dates back to 1165?--Launchballer 21:50, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:04, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
General eligibility:
- New enough:
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Overall: @Thief-River-Faller: Unfortunately this is not of sufficient length to qualify. It needs to be at least 1,500 bytes of prose, while currently it sits under 500. Do you have any intention of expanding this? Otherwise it shall be closed as unsuccessful. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:09, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Stanley Casson
- ... that the archaeologist Stanley Casson was almost captured – twice – during World War II? Source: Myres, John L. (1945). "Stanley Casson 1889–1944". Annual of the British School at Athens. 41: 1–4. doi:10.1017/S0068245400004147. JSTOR 30096903.; "Obituary". The Ipswichian. 20 (11): 300–302. December 1944.
- ALT1: ... that the archaeologist Stanley Casson undertook only one excavation in more than twenty years working at the University of Oxford? Source: Myres, John L. (1945). "Stanley Casson 1889–1944". Annual of the British School at Athens. 41: 2. doi:10.1017/S0068245400004147. JSTOR 30096903.;
- ALT2: ... that Stanley Casson divided his wartime service in Macedonia between staff officer work and archaeological excavation? Source: Morgan, Catherine (2017). "The British Salonika Force, the British School at Athens, and the Archaic–Hellenistic Archaeology of Macedonia". In Shapland, Andrew; Stefani, Evangelia (eds.). Archaeology Behind the Battle Lines: The Macedonian Campaign (1915–19) and Its Legacy. Abingdon: Routledge. pp. 121–180. ISBN 9781351978101.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Young (obstetrician)
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 19 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.UndercoverClassicist T·C 18:30, 31 March 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 1[edit]
Euwallacea validus
- ... that out of the known Euwallacea spp., Euwallacea validus is the only one that exhibits fidelity with its respective fungi? Source: Berger, Matthew C. (2017). Interactions between Euwallacea Ambrosia Beetles, Their Fungal Symbionts and the Native Trees They Attack in the Eastern United States (Thesis). West Virginia University Libraries. doi:10.33915/etd.5186.
- Reviewed:
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Bomapoodle (talk) 15:34, 5 April 2024 (UTC).
- @Bomapoodle: Hello and welcome to DYK! Unfortunately, the hook might not be a good fit for DYK as it's somewhat specialist, meaning unless someone is well-versed in biology they might not necessarily get what the hook is trying to say. I would suggest proposing a hook or two that's targeted more towards readers who may not known much about biology. In addition, the current hook is also confusing: it's not clear that Euwallacea validus is actually a beetle rather than a fungus, a possible misinterpretation given the wording. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:22, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
Sonja van den Ende
- ... that Dutch activist and journalist Sonja van den Ende has been described by Western mainstream media as a "fake journalist" promoting Russian disinformation and propaganda? Source: Short mention in https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/18/business/media/russia-fake-journalists.html , in-depth coverage in Dutch: https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/1035246140/poetins-marionetten-in-nederland-burgerjournalist-fanatiek-verspreider-van-totale-onzin and https://www.parool.nl/wereld/hoe-een-nederlandse-burgerjournaliste-betrokken-raakte-bij-het-russische-leger~be2905ce/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Stewards Society
- Comment: 2nd QPQ: Template:Did you know nominations/Gambling in Georgia
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 504 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 22:51, 4 April 2024 (UTC).
TikTok-A-Thon for Trans Healthcare
- ... that home repair and maintenance educator Mercury Stardust and her friend Jory Vizcaino have raised over $3 million for transgender healthcare through their TikTok-A-Thon for Trans Healthcare? Source: https://www.them.us/story/trans-handy-maam-tiktok-live-trans-day-of-visibility-fundraiser
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I'd really like some suggestions for improving the hook, this year the event was really badly disrupted by trolls who got their accounts banned 9 times in 10 hours. I would like to include this in a way that isn't encouraging trolls to disrupt fundraisers
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.John Cummings (talk) 17:32, 3 April 2024 (UTC).
Shinhanchon
- ... that in Vladivostok, the Korean enclave Shinhanchon served as a hub of the Korean independence movement? Source: [13] (in English)
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.toobigtokale (talk) 21:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC).
Mount Aniakchak
- ... that the 1628 ± 1 BCE eruption of Mount Aniakchak depopulated parts of Alaska and formed a caldera that produced one of the largest floods of the last 10,000 years?
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 159 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 07:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC).
The Glorious Cause: The American Revolution, 1763–1789
- ... that The Glorious Cause: The American Revolution, 1763–1789 has been the first, second, and third volume of the Oxford History of the United States? Source:
in the projected eleven-volume Oxford History of the United States (of which this volume is the second in chronology and the first to appear in print)
, in Don Higginbotham, review of The Glorious Cause, in William and Mary Quarterly 40, no. 3 (July 1983): 455–458, here 455, DOI:10.2307/1917207. And [Robert Middlekauff, The Glorious Cause: The American Revolution, 1763—1789 is visibly listed as chronologically first of all current published volumes on page 407]It also highlights how little attention in this series is going to be paid to the colonial period. Peter Mancall, the author of Volume I, and Fred Anderson and Andrew Cayton, authors of Volume II, have to deal with whole centuries
, in Trevor Burnard, "America the Good, America the Brave, America the Free: Reviewing the Oxford History of the United States", Journal of American Studies 45, no. 3 (August 2011): 407–420, here 407 and 413, DOI:10.1017/S0021875811000508.- ALT1: ... that in 1982, historian Gordon S. Wood harshly criticized the book The Glorious Cause: The American Revolution, 1763–1789, and in 2020 he recommended it to readers? Source:
Although Gordon Wood had recently agreed to write the 1789–1815 volume abandoned at long last by Elkins and McKittrick, he appeared to question the overall soundness of the narrative approach in a long and sharply critical essay review of Middlekauff ’s book in the New York Review of Books
, in James C. Cobb, C. Vann Woodward: America's Historian (Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 2022). Andrecommended by Gordon S. Wood
[...]You’ve named four books that illuminate the Fourth of July
[...]The Glorious Cause is your next choice. How does this work, by Berkeley historian Robert Middlekauff
, in "The Best Fourth of July Books, recommend by Gordon S. Wood" (interview), Five Books, July 2, 2020, title, subtitle, paragraphs 8–10. - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/One Chun
- Comment: ALT0's viability depends on considering the arithmetic by which one concludes that if there are a volume I and II before The Glorious Cause, then The Glorious Cause must be volume III, to be an example of "[r]outine calculations [that] do not count as original research". I didn't find a source (aside from like, Amazon and Audible product listings) that definitively said "The Glorious Cause is the third volume in the series"; what Burnard does clearly say is that there are two volumes planned in the series that cover history set before The Glorious Cause. As an additional note, I would avoid piping the article name to shorten it to just the title The Glorious Cause because there is a different book about the American Revolution with that title.
- ALT1: ... that in 1982, historian Gordon S. Wood harshly criticized the book The Glorious Cause: The American Revolution, 1763–1789, and in 2020 he recommended it to readers? Source:
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 05:42, 1 April 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 2[edit]
World Central Kitchen drone strikes
- ... that the attack on World Central Kitchen convoy in the Gaza Strip, which killed seven aid workers, was a result of three consecutive missiles fired by an Israeli drone? Source: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-04-02/ty-article/.premium/idf-bombed-wck-aid-convoy-3-times-targeting-armed-hamas-member-who-wasnt-there/0000018e-9e75-d764-adff-9eff29360000
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 37 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Makeandtoss (talk) 13:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC).
My objection is now outdated. Events and sources are moving. starship.paint (RUN) 02:44, 6 April 2024 (UTC) |
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@Makeandtoss: - you are assuming too much of the sources. (1) Bellingcat does not say three consecutive strikes, they simply say Israeli airstrike, Bellingcat cannot confirm that it was missiles or that they were even fired by a drone: Although not possible to be certain without fragments of the munition itself, the WCK vehicles bear the hallmarks of a precision strike by inert or low-yield missiles ... In order to successfully accomplish a laser guided strike it is necessary for a platform, such as a drone, to “illuminate” the target with a laser while the missile is launched.(2) BBC writes that the evidence suggests there was more than one strike, but this is not confirmation, BBC's experts also do not confirm that it was a drone strike: Chris Cobb-Smith, a former British Army officer and ex-UN weapons inspector, said the attack was probably the result of drone-launched Spike missiles ... Justin Crump, a former British Army officer who runs Sibylline - a risk intelligence company - agreed. He says the attack "was likely drone-launched and targeted". He added the strike had probably been caused by a missile, rather than a bomb or mortar.(3) Al Jazeera goes the furthest, their article text says The shelling targeted three vehicles belonging to WCK, one at a time, but if you read the article text, there is no mention of drone missiles, instead they say: Analysis of images of the second and third targeted vehicles showed signs of a projectile entering from the top and exiting through the bottom, suggesting that the cars were targeted from the air.Now, Al Jazeera's image does mention "drone strikes" and missiles, but I find it peculiar that they didn't mention (or even attempt to explain) it in the article text. The sources are simply weaker than you portray them to be. None of them confirm, all of them are simply suggesting / probably / likely etc. starship.paint (RUN) 11:55, 4 April 2024 (UTC) |
Can I suggest some edits to the hook to make it clearer what happened? I'd suggest something like Humanitarian and aid organizations suspended their operations in the Gaza Strip after seven World Central Kitchen aid workers were killed when their marked cars on a preapproved route were bombed by Israeli drones. I think its really important to make clear they were in marked cars, they were also on a route approved by the Israeli military. Makeandtoss what do you think? Also have any additional sources been published that would resolve the dissagreement above? If not maybe a third party could be involved to help resolve if the sourcing meets Wikipedia's rules. John Cummings (talk) 13:48, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Please note that this is also nominated at ITN. It can only reach the main page through one of the possible venues. At this point, there isn't consensus to post to ITN, but that can change. Schwede66 02:12, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
@Starship.paint: @John Cummings: Thanks for commenting. Starship.paint, building on our discussion on the talk page, I think we can both agree to this ALT1 version: ... that the attack on World Central Kitchen convoy in the Gaza Strip, which killed seven aid workers, was likely a result of three consecutive missiles fired by an Israeli drone? Makeandtoss (talk) 14:07, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Per the discussions at both Template:Did you know nominations/Killing of David Ben Avraham and Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Template:Did you know nominations/Killing of David Ben Avraham, it might not be a good idea to run the proposed hooks as currently written. Courtesy ping to 4meter4 regarding this matter. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:16, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think I can add anything more than what starship.paint and John Cummings have said. Any hook we run on this topic should be widely supported across a cross section of media, and be independently verified. Otherwise its likely to be challenged at Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors. We need a hook that won't get pulled. John made some good suggestions.4meter4 (talk) 02:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
@Makeandtoss, 4meter4, John Cummings, and Narutolovehinata5: I've hatted my objection above due to recent events: the IDF's admission, which I believe supports this hook: starship.paint (RUN) 02:54, 6 April 2024 (UTC)@FortunateSons: - forgot to ping. starship.paint (RUN) 02:58, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Starship.paint: Thanks for the ping, I agree that the objection is now out of date. FortunateSons (talk) 07:51, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
ALT2 ... that the Israel Defense Forces have accepted responsibility for killing seven World Central Kitchen aid workers in targeted drone strikes that destroyed the aid workers' cars, one by one? Source 1: Associated Press Source 2: CBS News Source 3: BBC News starship.paint (RUN) 02:54, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- I would be ok with this as long as there are no objections to featuring violent content at DYK. There has been some pushback of late against featuring potentially disturbing hooks. That said, this hook appears to have wide support in media, and is so widely reported I don’t think an argument for censoring would be successful.4meter4 (talk) 02:59, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Well, our main page constantly features potentially disturbing content, so I don't see why this can't be, either. Right now, our ITN section:
A severe earthquake strikes near Hualien City, Taiwan ... In Syria, an Israeli airstrike kills 16 people at the Iranian consulate in Damascus, including brigadier general Mohammad Reza Zahedi ... A bus falls from a bridge in Limpopo, South Africa, killing 45 people ... The Francis Scott Key Bridge in the U.S. city of Baltimore collapses after being hit by a container ship.
starship.paint (RUN) 06:08, 6 April 2024 (UTC)- DYK and ITN have different goals. In addition, the issues with IP hooks have never really been about violence but rather tone and POV. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:23, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- One might consider, is the problem Wikipedia's "tone and POV", or does the event inherently make one side look bad? I'd say the answer is provided by the BBC:
There are also moments, like the last few days in the Middle East, when events leave belligerents and their allies at a crossroads with big decisions to make ... The killing of foreign aid workers in Gaza might finally exhaust the considerable patience of Israel's allies, led by the United States.
and Reuters:the killing of a group of aid workers by an Israeli air strike summed up both the dire humanitarian crisis and the lack of a clear way out of a conflict that is leaving Israel increasingly isolated. The attack on Monday night that killed seven staff of the World Central Kitchen (WCK) aid group, including six foreigners, has angered even some of Israel's closest allies, adding to growing pressure for an end to the fighting.
starship.paint (RUN) 07:09, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- One might consider, is the problem Wikipedia's "tone and POV", or does the event inherently make one side look bad? I'd say the answer is provided by the BBC:
- DYK and ITN have different goals. In addition, the issues with IP hooks have never really been about violence but rather tone and POV. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:23, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Well, our main page constantly features potentially disturbing content, so I don't see why this can't be, either. Right now, our ITN section:
- I would be ok with this as long as there are no objections to featuring violent content at DYK. There has been some pushback of late against featuring potentially disturbing hooks. That said, this hook appears to have wide support in media, and is so widely reported I don’t think an argument for censoring would be successful.4meter4 (talk) 02:59, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
Joseph Redding
- ... that Joseph Redding was the first American to compose a grand opera that premiered in Europe? Source: "Joseph Redding, Famous Attorney and Writer, Dies". The San Francisco Examiner. November 22, 1932. p. 1, 11.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Itutumba Ka ng Tatay Ko, Template:Did you know nominations/Head Harbour Lighthouse
- Comment: Article was previously a redirect to a different person. This is a brand new article on a new topic.
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 72 past nominations.
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Joseph Schwarz (baritone)
- ... that in opposition to his parents, opera star Joseph Schwarz (pictured) began his career by running away from home to join a band of traveling minstrels? Source: "A New Russian Singer". The Musical Monitor. XI (5): 153. February 1922.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Get Lost (organisation)
- Comment: Second QPQ: Template:Did you know nominations/Predator: The Secret Scandal of J-Pop
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 71 past nominations.
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Gerboise Verte
- ... that according to witnesses, the plutonium charge in the bomb used in the nuclear weapons test Gerboise Verte was transported in a Citroën 2CV? Source: "Le Président et la Bombe" and "L'héritage de la bombe: Sahara, Polynésie (1960-2002), les faits, les personnels, les populations"
- Reviewed:
- Comment: First time nominating - not sure if this is the correct form.
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
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General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing: - n
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting: - ?
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Article is new enough and long enough, QPQ is not required due to first nomination. I do not have access to that book nor can really read French, so I'm going to assume good faith that is accurate. However, I have concerns over the hook itself. Now feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I don't find the hook provided particularly interesting or catching - I can't imagine most people would immediately know what a "Citroën 2CV" is. In addition, the source used to make that statement and the one cited here doesn't appear to be the same, but again, I can't read French so someone who can may need to weigh in here.
Also some inconsistencies I have noticed on a glance in the article itself is a few unsourced statements, such as under the "From a technical point of view, Gerboise Verte was a failure." and "Gerboise Verte is also discussed in Thomas Cantaloube's first novel, Requiem for a Republic (2019)." part, which I have marked. This needs citation to reliable sources. If these issues can be addressed and perhaps an alternate hook put forward then perhaps this could be accepted. TheBritinator (talk) 18:04, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 3[edit]
Teatre Victòria
- ... that the Teatre Victòria (pictured) in Barcelona had its origins in 1900 as a wooden pavillion inaugurated by the brothers Ricardo and Manuel Soriano? Source: [17] "Los orígenes del Teatre Victòria de Barcelona se remontan a 1900, cuando Ricardo y Manuel Soriano, nacidos en Béjar, feriantes, aprovecharon su llegada a la ciudad para inaugurar un barracón de feria de madera con techo de cartón cuero endurecido con asfalto, donde organizaron una serie de eventos que nada tenían que ver con el verdadero espectáculo."
- ALT1: ... that despite losing viewers during the COVID-19 pandemic, El Mago Pop's show Nada es imposible at the Teatre Victòria (pictured) became the most watched show in the world during the pandemic? Source: [18] "El Mago Pop logró el récord de público en el mundo durante la pandemia"
- ALT2: ... that Ricardo Soriano, one of the founders of the Teatre Victòria (pictured) in Barcelona, was friends with the leader of the newly established Republican Party? Source: [19] "Ricardo Soriano fue el primero en ver la posibilidad de hacer negocio y entabló amistad con el líder del recién instaurado Partido Republicano, lo que le llevó a conseguir una mayor repercusión."
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I think this would be a good article to include a DYK nomination, it has some interesting history.
- Second hook – It is an interesting fact in my opinion but seems much more focused on the illusionist El Mago Pop instead.
- Third hook – "Republican Party" is probably referring either to the Republican Union Party (Partido de Unión Republicana) or Republican Party (1913) (Partido Republicano). But I am not quite sure.
- Second hook – It is an interesting fact in my opinion but seems much more focused on the illusionist El Mago Pop instead.
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.GoldenBootWizard276 (talk) 22:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC).
Lake stratification
- ... that lake stratification patterns caused by climate change can harm popular freshwater sport fishing industries? Source: Zachary S. Feiner, Hilary A. Dugan, Noah R. Lottig, Greg G. Sass, and Gretchen A. Gerrish. 2022. A perspective on the ecological and evolutionary consequences of phenological variability in lake ice on north-temperate lakes. Canadian Journal of Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences. 79(9): 1590-1604. https://doi-org.ezp3.lib.umn.edu/10.1139/cjfas-2021-0221
- Reviewed:
- Comment: We have not added 5-fold information on this article, nor is it fully complete yet. This is part of an assignment for a Wiki-Ed class.
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Abel.jack03 (talk) 18:15, 3 April 2024 (UTC).
- hasn't been increased five fold in last 7 days, Abel.jack03 do you plan to add five fold information to this article so it will be elligible for DYK? If so do you know roughly what date you might do this by? (mainly asking this so reviewers know to leave this nomination as and come back and check at a later date. Thanks, John Cummings (talk) 18:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Tomás Treviño de Sobremonte
- ... that when offered to repent before being burnt at the stake, one crypto-Jew allegedly told his tormentors to add more wood to the fire? Source: https://www.jstor.org/stable/4467073 "Tomas Treviño de Sobremonte: A Jewish Mexican Martyr" by Seymour B. Liebman. Text to support: "A contemporary, Gregorio M. de Guijo, recorded in his diary that even during the march to the stake on 14 April 1649, there were "no words of condemnation of Tremiño" (sic).' He added that the onlookers of the parade were left with admiration when Tomas refused to kiss the cross. His refusal denied him the privilege of garrote (a speedier, less painful, death) and, consequently, he was burned alive. In the publication of De Guijo's diary, Manuel Romero de Torreros wrote that Treviño exclaimed as the flames licked at his body, "Throw on more wood, this [fire] is costing me enough money." page 63.https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv47w8sq.9?seq=80 chapter "El siglo de integración" from "Historia general de México" by Andrés Lira, Luis Muro (in Spanish). Text to support: Célebre fue aquella ejecución de 1648, en que uno de los reos, Tomás Treviño de Sobremonte, condenado a morir en la hoguera, por no haberse arrepentido o "reconciliado" -como la gran mayoría solía hacerlo-- decía al verdugo, después de resistirse al franciscano que lo exhortaba para que pensara en la salvación de su ánima, "echen más [leña] que mi dinero me cuesta". Translation by Jaguarnik: "Famed was the execution of 1648, in which one of the condemned, Tomás Treviño de Sobremonte, condemned to die at the stake for not having repented or "reconciled" - as the great majority usually did - said to the executioner, after resisting the Franciscan friar who exhorted him to think of the salvation of his soul - "throw more [wood] on, for it costs me my money." page 450.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: open to rewordings of the hook because it's a bit long and awkward, but I can't think of a better way to phrase it. If possible, I'd like it to be featured on 14 April, the day of Treviño's execution.
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Jaguarnik (talk) 12:19, 3 April 2024 (UTC).
Clean (2022 film)
... that 2022 Australian documentary film Clean, centered on the life of Sandra Pankhurst, was released after her passing?- ALT0a: ... that 2022 Australian documentary film Clean, centered on the life of Sandra Pankhurst, was released after her death?
- Reviewed: Cat Bird (video game)
- Comment: Happy for alt hooks
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.— MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 09:01, 3 April 2024 (UTC).
- Everything looks to be in order, but I would like you to consider a slightly more interesting hook. I would encourage at least some detail as to know Sanda Pankhurst was and what the documentary's themes were. ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:21, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- How about "... that 2022 Australian documentary film Clean, centered on the life of Sandra Pankhurst (a former sex worker, drag queen, and crime scene cleaner), was released after her passing?". Dunno, I would be open to suggestions on how to improve it. I thought it was best to focus on one thing: the fact she died before her own film was released. This person was the epitome of interesting, but I don't want to bring too much into a short hook. Ideas? Pbritti — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:11, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- You definitely can't put the word "passing" onto the main page as per MOS:EUPHEMISM. Schwede66 02:20, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- This is a very interesting documentary about a very interesting person. Thank you, MaxnaCarta (talk · contribs)! I made some copyedits to the article. Except for the citation requirement, the article meets DYK requirements. The "Synopsis" section is unsourced. If Sandra Pankhurst were still living, citations would be necessary to comply with WP:BLPSOURCES. But as she has been dead for at least two years, WP:BLP does not apply.
From Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction#Sourcing and quotations, "The plot summary for a work, on a page about that work, does not need to be sourced with in-line citations, as it is generally assumed that the work itself is the primary source for the plot summary." However, Clean is a documentary, not a work of fiction, so that guideline is not fully applicable. To err on the safe side, I recommend adding sources to that section so that there is no question that WP:DYKCITE is met. Sourcing is needed to comply with DYK guidelines since the information about her being "a former sex worker, drag queen, and crime scene cleaner" is not sourced in the article. WP:DYKCITE says, "The facts of the hook in the article should be cited no later than the end of the sentence in which they appear."
The lead contains information that is not sourced in the body of the article. For example, the release month in "Clean was released in Australia in June 2022" is unsourced. The sentence "It was nominated for two awards at the Australian Academy of Cinema and Television Arts Awards in 2022" is unsourced also. I recommend going through the lead to confirm that everything is sourced (or is mentioned in the body of the article and is sourced there).
Here is an alternative hook that tightens MaxnaCarta's proposed alternative and removes the euphemism:
... ALT1: that the posthumously released documentary Clean centered on the life of Sandra Pankhurst, a former sex worker, drag queen, and crime scene cleaner?
As I am proposing an alternative hook, Schwede66 or another reviewer will be needed to review the wording. Cunard (talk) 09:43, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- This is a very interesting documentary about a very interesting person. Thank you, MaxnaCarta (talk · contribs)! I made some copyedits to the article. Except for the citation requirement, the article meets DYK requirements. The "Synopsis" section is unsourced. If Sandra Pankhurst were still living, citations would be necessary to comply with WP:BLPSOURCES. But as she has been dead for at least two years, WP:BLP does not apply.
- You definitely can't put the word "passing" onto the main page as per MOS:EUPHEMISM. Schwede66 02:20, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- How about "... that 2022 Australian documentary film Clean, centered on the life of Sandra Pankhurst (a former sex worker, drag queen, and crime scene cleaner), was released after her passing?". Dunno, I would be open to suggestions on how to improve it. I thought it was best to focus on one thing: the fact she died before her own film was released. This person was the epitome of interesting, but I don't want to bring too much into a short hook. Ideas? Pbritti — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:11, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
A Spy on Mother Midnight
- ... that the eighteenth-century chapbook A Spy on Mother Midnight (1748) includes sex scenes with cross-dressing and a dildo? Source: p. 32 of the book, https://archive.org/details/bim_eighteenth-century_a-spy-on-mother-midnight_1748/page/n33/mode/2up
- ALT1: ... that the pornographic chapbook A Spy on Mother Midnight (1748) references a midwife in the title because they were considered bawdy figures in the eighteenth century? Source: "The presence of Mother Midnight ... hints at the explicit direction the tale will take, as midwives were known often to function as bawds. With this dual function, as Deborah Needleman Armintor notes, these women 'held a high place in the eighteenth-century literary imagination because of what was presumed to be their unlimited access to medical information . . . and their supposed first-hand knowledge of women’s secret sexual pleasures and proclivities.' The unshockable and permissive character of the midwife thus suggests sexual license." p. 272-3, Thomason, Laura E. (2009). "The Covert Homoeroticism of A Spy on Mother Midnight". The Eighteenth Century. 50 (4): 271–283.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Oxford History of Christian Worship
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.~ L 🌸 (talk) 02:43, 3 April 2024 (UTC).
- ALT0 is very unlikely to fly per WP:DYKFICTION. Is there a reason the article describes the narrator as "Richard F------", given that Wikipedia is not censored?--Launchballer 18:04, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- The character's name is censored in the original book. I think the real-world implication of ALT0 is the age of the book: it would be unsurprising to learn that this sort of material is in a contemporary book, but people are often unaware that dildos and cross-dressing existed in the eighteenth century, or that 18thC books had sex in them. What do you think of ALT2 below? ~ L 🌸 (talk) 20:12, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2... that the eighteenth-century chapbook A Spy on Mother Midnight (1748) is studied for its sex scenes with cross-dressing and a dildo? Sources: Thomason, Laura E. (2009). "The Covert Homoeroticism of A Spy on Mother Midnight; Savage, Elizabeth (Fall 2012). "Phallic nationalism: limits of male homosocial desire in A Spy on Mother Midnight"; Donoghue, Emma (1996). Passions between women: British lesbian culture, 1668-1801; Park, Julie (2020). "Writing with Pen and Dildo: Libertine Techniques of Eighteenth-Century Narrative"; Klein, Ula Lukszo (2018). "Dildos and Material Sapphism in the Eighteenth Century"
- The character's name is censored in the original book. I think the real-world implication of ALT0 is the age of the book: it would be unsurprising to learn that this sort of material is in a contemporary book, but people are often unaware that dildos and cross-dressing existed in the eighteenth century, or that 18thC books had sex in them. What do you think of ALT2 below? ~ L 🌸 (talk) 20:12, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 4[edit]
Merrill Piepkorn
- ... that North Dakota state senator Merrill Piepkorn (pictured) is also a musician, radio host, and public address announcer?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Heike Heubach and Template:Did you know nominations/Joseph Drummond
- Comment: Open to anything more interesting as a hook
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 528 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.– Muboshgu (talk) 23:09, 5 April 2024 (UTC).
Heike Heubach
- ... that Heike Heubach became the first deaf member of the German Bundestag? Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/ap-berlin-olaf-scholz-bundestag-bavaria-b2516308.html
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Oakland California Temple
- Comment: Historic first in Germany
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Moondragon21 (talk) 16:02, 5 April 2024 (UTC).
- Newly created article, long enough and sourced throughout, it appears to be written neutrally. Hook fact is interesting enough and sourced. The image is free to use, based on its license, and could be added to the nom. QPQ has been provided. There is some close paraphrasing in the following, please rewrite the italicized bits (also, I imagine there's a word missing at the end of "fixed place in the" and "As and when" is ungrammatical):
As a parliamentarian, Heubach will have a fixed place in the, unlike most other lawmakers, with interpreters sat close to interpret speeches and her questions. As and when she makes her own speeches, an interpreter with a microphone will have a place next to the Bundestag's stenographers to interpret her speeches to translate for other lawmakers to understand.
– Muboshgu (talk) 23:18, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
I Feel It Coming
- ... that the music video for the Weeknd's "I Feel It Coming" takes inspiration from people entombed in volcano ash from the eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 79 AD? Source: https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/weeknd-daft-punk-i-feel-it-coming-video-director-interview-7718162/
- Reviewed:
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.𝘮𝘪𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘦𝘭'𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘳 𝘮𝘦𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘺, 04:19, 5 April 2024 (UTC).
Pam Taylor
- ... that Pam Taylor's "Unknown Airman" in Plymouth Hoe (pictured), serves as a memorial to WWII RAF, Commonwealth and Allied Air Forces? Sources: https://artuk.org/discover/artists/taylor-pam-19292014 https://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/25616 Windsor, Alan, ed. (2020p). "Pamela Taylor ARBS b.1929". British Sculptors of the Twentieth Century. Taylor & Francis. ISBN 9781000160529.
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 24 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Bogger (talk) 10:39, 4 April 2024 (UTC).
- @Bogger and AtticTapestry: Needs more RS, the article has passing mentions and blog type sites as RS and they discuss the work not the person. Three sentences of the article are related to the person and they are supported with what looks like non-rs. I could not find much either...
- Here is a source
- Another source
- Another source
- These are only passing mentions which are more about the works not the person. I wonder if this article should be redirected to the artwork with the three sentences merged. Bruxton (talk) 21:39, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
second opinion and full review needed. Bruxton (talk) 14:27, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 5[edit]
Anactoria
- ... that scholars debate whether Anactoria, mentioned in the poems of Sappho, was a real person, a pseudonym or Sappho's invention? Source: Ford, Andrew L. (2011). Aristotle as Poet: The Song for Hermias and Its Contexts. Oxford: Oxford University Press. p. 120. ISBN 9780199733293.
- ALT1: ... that Algernon Charles Swinburne's poem about the love of Sappho for Anactoria has been called "frankly pornographic"? Source: Cook, David A. (1971). "The Content and Meaning of Swinburne's 'Anactoria'". Victorian Poetry. 9 (1/2): 77. JSTOR 40001590.
- ALT2: ... that Sappho compared her beloved Anactoria with Helen of Troy? Source: Pfeijffer, Ilja Leonard (2000). "Shifting Helen: An Interpretation of Sappho, Fragment 16 (Voigt)". The Classical Quarterly. 50 (1): 6. JSTOR 1558930.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Audrys Nin Reyes Template:Did you know nominations/Dynastes tityus
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 20 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Gertrude Rhinelander Waldo House
- ... that when the heiress Gertrude Rhinelander Waldo was negotiating to sell her abandoned New York City mansion, she said "I don't think I'll sell" and walked out? Source: "Old Waldo Mansion to Go at Auction; House That Has Never Been Occupied Will Be Sold Under Foreclosure" (PDF). The New York Times. December 24, 1909.
- ALT1: ... that the heiress Gertrude Rhinelander Waldo abandoned a brand-new mansion in New York City when it was completed? Source: Gray, Christopher (October 7, 2010). "Mrs. Waldo's Mysterious Mansion". The New York Times.
- ALT2: ... that the heiress Gertrude Rhinelander Waldo abandoned a brand-new mansion in New York City and refused to sell, rent, or maintain it? Source: Gray, Christopher (October 7, 2010). "Mrs. Waldo's Mysterious Mansion". The New York Times.
- ALT3: ... that the Gertrude Rhinelander Waldo House, once abandoned by its owner, later became Ralph Lauren's flagship store? Source: Gray, Christopher (October 7, 2010). "Mrs. Waldo's Mysterious Mansion". The New York Times.
- ALT4: ... that a renovation of the Gertrude Rhinelander Waldo House required 400 workers and was delayed by bomb threats and preservation rules? Source: DiGennaro, Ralph (April 26, 1986). "Now, Ralph Lauren Can Get It for You Retail: Ralph Lauren, Designer, is Now Ralph Lauren, Proprietor". Newsday. p. A1.
- Reviewed: 2 QPQs pending
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Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Epicgenius (talk) 16:59, 5 April 2024 (UTC).
Dynastes tityus
- ... that Dynastes tityus is one of the biggest beetles around the world? Source: https://illiad.wustl.edu/illiad/illiad.dll?Action=10&Form=75&Value=1132169
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Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Chri Ye (talk) 02:59, 5 April 2024 (UTC).
- Unless I am missing something, the article isn't eligible: it's being nominated here as moved to mainspace, but was created in 2005. It doesn't seem to have been expanded by 5x recently and isn't a GA. @Chri Ye: is there some other reason why this meets the DYK criteria? UndercoverClassicist T·C 19:57, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 6[edit]
Camberley Kate
- ... that eccentric Yorkshirewoman Camberley Kate is estimated to have cared for over 600 dogs in her lifetime? Source: BBC: "She was a dog lover who rescued any stray pup that was sent her way and estimates indicate she cared for more than 600 dogs in her lifetime."
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Cruise of the Kings
- ... that over 100 European royals boarded the Cruise of the Kings, a 1954 cruise organised by the Queen Consort of Greece, Frederica of Hanover, to promote tourism in Greece? Source: [1]
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Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Therealscorp1an (talk) 05:00, 6 April 2024 (UTC).
References
- ^ Frederica of Hanover (1971). A Measure of Understanding. MacMillan. ASIN B000TDQ63S.
"In 1954 , [shipowner] Eugenides asked me to visit one of his transatlantic liners and give it my name. When this type of request is made, it is customary to offer the godmother a large brilliant brooch . However, on this occasion I had an idea and asked Eugenides if, instead of this traditional gift, he would give me the necessary means to organize a cruise during which I would invite all the royal families of Europe […]. There were different reasons for organizing this cruise. First, Paul and I wanted to open the doors of Greece to tourism . […] But the first thing we needed was to get the world's attention. As the world press was responsible for giving wide publicity to the cruise, everything worked very well. Immediately afterwards, shipping companies began to organize cruises exactly following the program and itinerary of ours, and soon hotels and other land-based services and facilities began to bring tourist money to the country. Another reason was that, since World War I , royal families had not reunited internationally. […] The trip was a great success. We were 110 people, of twenty nationalities and speaking 15 different languages; despite this there was not the slightest difficulty during the ten days that the cruise lasted. […] "
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